Key Takeaways

In this episode of TFTC with Rod Roudi, we dive into the broader implications of central bank policies, bitcoin as a solution, and the personal habits that contribute to success in both life and business. A recurring theme throughout the episode was the idea of taking control in a world that often feels out of hand, whether that's through personal financial sovereignty with bitcoin or through the simple act of establishing a morning routine.

One of the key insights from the episode is the emphasis on the importance of bitcoin in a world where central banks are in a race to debase their currencies. Rod posited that in such an environment, bitcoin stands out as a victor, presenting a bullish case for its future.

The discussion also ventured into the mindset of solution-driven thinking as opposed to doomscrolling and feeding into the negativity that is often found on social media platforms. Rod encouraged focusing on positive actions that compound over time and the importance of small, daily progress.

Lastly, Rod shared his perspective on raising a family and instilling the right values, which he believes is a white pill in itself. He emphasized the power of compound interest, not just in finance but also in the small acts of good or evil that one performs.

Best Quotes

1. "We have the ability, we have the tools, we have the vision, we have the people, we can do this 100%."
2. "The truth is on our side, we have the truth for the commoner."
3. "It's so easy to communicate, marketing is so easy today with all the platforms out there to be able to build a brand, to be able to build distribution mechanisms. The ideas are pretty cheap too, to experiment and not lose everything, you can just iterate, iterate, iterate."
4. "If you had more time in your day, if you even had one extra hour or two extra hours, what would you do with it?"

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Conclusion

Amidst the chaos of the world's economic systems and the noise of social media, there are still simple, powerful actions we can take every day to improve our lives and the lives of those around us.

The overarching message was one of empowerment through bitcoin and the role it plays in protecting individual sovereignty against the backdrop of a devaluing fiat currency system. Additionally, it served as a testament to the power of community, positive mindset, and the compounding effect of daily efforts, whether in personal development or nurturing family relationships.

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
0:14 - Opening riff
6:08 - Tennessee Bitcoin
13:47 - River & Unchained
15:03 - Grassroots adoption
19:34 - Bitcoin Brainstorm
25:53 - Best way for number to go up
35:00 - Gradually, Then Suddenly & Zaprite
36:37 - Doomscrolling
40:52 - Leveraging time
50:44 - Delegation and scheduling
1:05:32 - More meetups, more podcasts
1:10:54 - TFTC rewards
1:15:11 - Incorporating alpha
1:21:19 - Home screen apps

Transcript

00:00:00:01 - 00:00:08:06
Marty
Pull up my clips of your face. Yep. I'm like this guy. It's one thing to do the fix at the site tables.

00:00:08:08 - 00:00:10:13
Rod
Boom.

00:00:10:15 - 00:00:17:11
Marty
Every life over live or lets go. You freaks. No. We need to fix our side tables. Very unsteady.

00:00:17:13 - 00:00:18:12
Rod
Next ball market.

00:00:18:13 - 00:00:26:04
Marty
It's always awkward watching the guests, like, try to fix some. I can think it's their problem, but it's really the side table that's the problem. And the dude.

00:00:26:04 - 00:00:30:29
Rod
The studio is awesome, man. I mean, like, it's been a year and a half since I've been back.

00:00:31:01 - 00:00:45:28
Marty
Well, I saw the original in Bitcoin Park. Behind you. Way behind you on the wall. Oh, yeah. I had to pick up the print, rather. I'll put it up. You were here a year and a half ago. That went up like, three months ago.

00:00:46:00 - 00:00:48:03
Rod
Oh, yeah, man. You're looking good.

00:00:48:05 - 00:00:50:21
Marty
Sir. You, sir. Feeling good?

00:00:50:23 - 00:00:55:15
Rod
We've got a big day. You already jammed out one podcast. You got me, and then you got another podcast after this.

00:00:55:23 - 00:00:57:25
Marty
It's going to be a big day. And we got a dinner devoted tonight.

00:00:57:27 - 00:01:00:22
Rod
And we got a dinner to go to tonight. I'll be fine. Yeah.

00:01:00:25 - 00:01:01:19
Marty
I'm happy you're here.

00:01:01:23 - 00:01:02:18
Rod
Thanks, man.

00:01:02:21 - 00:01:08:04
Marty
Because I'm in a big white pill mood these days. I think you're somebody.

00:01:08:08 - 00:01:09:19
Rod
That's white pill again.

00:01:09:21 - 00:01:10:22
Marty
We're going to win over.

00:01:10:22 - 00:01:11:24
Rod
The kind of.

00:01:11:26 - 00:01:19:04
Marty
Optimists we have, the ability, we have the tools, we have the vision. We're the people. We can do this.

00:01:19:06 - 00:01:26:03
Rod
100%. Logan hit that 100% soundboard.

00:01:26:05 - 00:01:38:08
Marty
It's it's happening. I got I'm not going to lie, right? I got in the state where it was just doomscrolling. Mm hmm. Feeding into the vitriol.

00:01:38:11 - 00:01:39:19
Rod
Into the algo, into.

00:01:39:19 - 00:01:47:20
Marty
The algo, letting it consume me. Pissed me off. And then I had a look. Look at myself in the mirror. And so what are you doing?

00:01:47:24 - 00:01:49:00
Rod
Yeah, I'm.

00:01:49:02 - 00:01:54:01
Marty
Focused on the problems. Focus on the solutions. You're big solutions driven individual. That's why I'm happy you're here.

00:01:54:09 - 00:02:05:05
Rod
Thanks, man. It's the easiest solution in the world. You wake up and you see your kids, then you're like, no bad days. As my friend Harry said, I like to say, No.

00:02:05:07 - 00:02:08:13
Marty
That's fine. I we have a great morning routine.

00:02:08:15 - 00:02:10:13
Rod
What is your morning routine?

00:02:10:15 - 00:02:32:04
Marty
Boys, come slap me in the face. I get out of bed around 637. Nice. They're my alarm clock. I've been trying to get up before them, but it's hard. I stay up too late, make breakfast. We hang out, we wrestle. We're big wrestling. That's got a lot of testosterone in the house, a lot of wrestling. And then a wrestle.

00:02:32:06 - 00:02:44:21
Marty
Very frugal. We have one car that gets in the car. We drive to the office to Chinese fire, drill out, kiss the boys, kiss the wife, come into the office, say God bless you, have a good day.

00:02:44:21 - 00:02:51:13
Rod
Hell, yeah. And they're going to like now camp or something like that in the summer now.

00:02:51:13 - 00:03:19:24
Marty
Well, my oldest did a swimming boot camp last week. They're all swimming like that. She's called the swimming Nazi of Boston, literally dunking three year olds in the water and I didn't go. My wife took care of it or she took him to the boot camp his five days last week. And in the first day swim teacher was like, They're all going be terrified for the first two days or be crying.

00:03:19:26 - 00:03:29:05
Marty
It's going to be terrible. You're going to be very stressed out. But I promise you, by day three, there will be no crying. And by day five they will be able to swim. And that's what happened.

00:03:29:07 - 00:03:56:26
Rod
So, you know, I have four kids starting from the age of five all the way down. And this swim season has been unbelievable. My daughter now can swim and it is one of the most, the coolest and most rewarding experiences, seeing them go from scared shitless to being so confident and so brave by jumping off now the diving board and then swimming over to you.

00:03:57:00 - 00:03:59:04
Rod
I'm like, What the heck is going on here?

00:03:59:08 - 00:04:19:20
Marty
Yeah, we were members of Lifetime Down here in Austin. They have a pool that opened up after Memorial or before Memorial Day. So we've learned how to swim last week. And so that's the camp. They dropped me off they went. The lifetime I'm going to the pool. Then we're shipping up to the northeast. Oh, nice week for the summer at the beach.

00:04:19:23 - 00:04:25:00
Rod
So you're going to go to the the summer and then you come back here and what, like August, September for school?

00:04:25:03 - 00:04:28:00
Marty
Yeah. Rock and roll. Rock and roll.

00:04:28:02 - 00:04:29:16

Kids. The best.

00:04:29:19 - 00:04:30:21
Rod
More kids.

00:04:30:23 - 00:04:42:00
Marty
More kids, More kids. Sweeper Solutions Solutions. You think the world's terrible people are making bad decisions. You have some kids and you raise them right. You try to raise them right.

00:04:42:02 - 00:05:07:18
Rod
Oh, man. There was this quote by C.S. Lewis. It was like, you know, and compounding and especially compounding interest is like doing the small things that are good or positive or doing the small things that are bad or an evil. They compound the same way. So we have bad dance, bad actions. They were even the smallest actions will compound for you, you know, one month a year, ten years, four down, down the road.

00:05:07:20 - 00:05:13:17
Rod
But yeah, just try to do good things a little. Move the ball forward every single day.

00:05:13:21 - 00:05:24:23
Marty
Yeah. Yeah. I don't come off pretentious or anything, but I'm very happy. I look at myself in mirrors. What are you doing. Yep. Feeding into the negativity. Stop it.

00:05:24:26 - 00:05:48:17
Rod
Dude. You're. You're killing it. You're Marty Bent. You're a multi preneur. I'm serious. I'm going to boost you up real quick. You have arguably one of the if not the top Bitcoin media company. You're killing it with CFTC. You and Matt are killing it with our HRT. You got 1031. You're on the board of this new recently. We are still in the process of merging, process.

00:05:48:17 - 00:05:48:29
Marty
Of merging.

00:05:48:29 - 00:06:06:03
Rod
Process of merging publicly traded mining company. And there's like probably five other things I've forgotten to even mention. And you're a great dad like and husband, so do keep killing it. The mindset is the biggest thing, a mindset and just doing small actions every single day.

00:06:06:06 - 00:06:47:12
Marty
That Well, let me let me pump you up now, sir. You're doing incredible things still. I mean, multi preneur, a Bitcoin park Part 256 Father really something we should probably dive into. I think facilitating commerce Asians between builders and bitcoin in the state of Tennessee. And I would say having been in the space and seeing people interacting with different state officials over the years, I think the way you're facilitating things in Nashville, a Bitcoin park, is incredible.

00:06:47:14 - 00:07:12:18
Rod
Yeah, it's it's interesting because now, you know, you open up Twitter, opening up these social media platforms and you see I'll say maybe that glass half full. Then I'll go maybe on the more pessimistic side of the glass half full Bitcoin digital assets. Crypto is the a talking point in this presidential election, which is pretty gnarly to even think about.

00:07:12:18 - 00:07:38:07
Rod
You and I become friends over the last like six, seven, eight years. And for for even one candidate to even talk about Bitcoin or even one legislator to even think about Bitcoin was like laughable at the time. And now it's, you know, you got Senator Lummis and Senator Wyden in sending letters, I think, to the Supreme Court on behalf of and defending FOSS developers as well as the samurai developers.

00:07:38:10 - 00:08:01:10
Rod
Uh, you know, that code is speech and this should be defended, not persecuted, which is just incredibly awesome to see. And especially as you zoom out and see it from a global point of view, for all its warts and everything, the U.S. is still one of the best places to live, raise a family and and build a business.

00:08:01:13 - 00:08:30:17
Rod
And so it's interesting now having these conversations with folks on the on the pessimistic side, it just seems like the marketing and propaganda engine across all the crypto digital assets and I'm nervous because they're saying all the quote unquote right things just to rally maybe a non-voting base to become a voting base or some group of people just so that they can tweet more and engage more.

00:08:30:19 - 00:08:57:10
Rod
I just hope those actions are fulfilled. And I think it's just small things, you know, that we can implement that can make a big difference. But for me, I don't get consumed on the national or federal level. I'm, you know, I'm long Tennessee. I love Nashville, Tennessee. I think we have one of the best communities to raise a family to learn to work and to be a Bitcoin.

00:08:57:12 - 00:09:20:27
Rod
And so if we can make that community vibrant and also the best place to start a business or raise a family, and if you're a FOSS developer to just write code and be protected and I even hate saying the word be protected as if this is like some new novel thing. It's code speech, so let's just call it a spade.

00:09:21:00 - 00:09:30:16
Rod
So I'd love to see an attorney general or somebody come out in full throated, you know, support that and just say, I can't believe I'm even saying this, but here you go.

00:09:30:22 - 00:10:03:11
Marty
Yeah. And think talk about like the game theoretical jurisdictional arbitrage. Many focus on the international jurisdictional arbitrage. But within the states, I think it exists as well. And that's I mean, we've talked about this many times individually. And then on the podcast, like I think states are going to lead the way here. I think we've seen states asserting their autonomy over the last four years particularly, and again, that's pumping up too much.

00:10:03:11 - 00:10:33:09
Marty
But I think the way you're positioning Bitcoin within the state of Tennessee towards Tennessee politicians is very smart. And again, small actions every day. You know, it's not like I won't say who or what, but like I got invited to a small get together with the presidential candidate. Um, it was like, you can come, but you have to give us some money.

00:10:33:09 - 00:10:35:12
Rod
I know it's such a joke.

00:10:35:14 - 00:11:05:03
Marty
Like it was. It's not what many people have, probably in other contexts. Not not the Trump meeting that's going on, but another politician here. But it's happening. I get the interfacing with the federal presidential candidates is like, all right, you want to come talk and put your case forward? It's you got to pay to play. But I think what you're doing in Tennessee, focusing on the state and the way you're facilitating the conversations between the industry and the political stakeholders within Tennessee is smart.

00:11:05:06 - 00:11:12:09
Marty
Multiple touches, low time preference. Okay, We're here to learn from you and we're here to be a resource for you as well.

00:11:12:09 - 00:11:41:27
Rod
And I'll give them credit. And the fact that they're the ones that are proactively reaching out and engaging more and more. And so hopefully we'll see a lot of good things. Yeah, the pay for play and like, hey, make a big contribution and do this or that just personally rubs me the wrong way. I think a lot of these politicians are actually really good people, believe it or not, and I do think they have their constituents best interests.

00:11:41:27 - 00:12:10:18
Rod
If you think about the alignment of incentives, they should have their constituents interests in mind. And this is one of those things where, you know, Parker will be here later tonight gradually than suddenly they see they come to our meetups and they see the eclectic community, the vibrant community that we've built that's local and global. And they're like, like now, like what is going on here?

00:12:10:18 - 00:12:29:13
Rod
Nashville, Tennessee. And and so it was like, Oh, I want to do a Bitcoin park here. I want to do a Bitcoin park there, meaning the commons, whatever. And I'm like, No, like, I think I could even start Bitcoin Park again if I went to a new city or I started from ground Zero again. No way, no shot.

00:12:29:13 - 00:12:49:09
Rod
Now, I do think a lot of people can make a better Bitcoin park and there's a number of ways to improve it, but I don't think they can make it again. You needed like and I hope that nothing like COVID ever happens again in my lifetime. But you know, you need something like that. You needed something where it gets Marty bent his his family uprooted from the northeast to come to Texas.

00:12:49:12 - 00:13:14:24
Rod
You need something where people are like, you know what? All my freedoms are pretty much manipulated, taken away, you know, in the areas that I used to I grew up in, I need to move. And then there is more people coming to the Nashville's the Austin's these my the Floridas and all these other places. So I think there's a unique opportunity and this is for the meetup organizers out there that are awesome.

00:13:14:27 - 00:13:41:02
Rod
Continue to build, continue to host your meetups, continue to engage in good faith with a lot of these folks because I think the way you kicked it off at the beginning with their white pilling, we're going to win. And it's it's not even going to be funny. It's we're going to win so bigly. And when we say we, I mean literally all American citizens and the entire global population is going to win bigly when we like.

00:13:41:09 - 00:13:45:17
Rod
It's not us versus them. It's literally every single human being benefits from bitcoin.

00:13:45:19 - 00:14:08:04
Marty
Yeah. And it's they can't focus on the solution. It's we have it here and that's one thing I've been trying to focus on is like diving. I've been really focused on like the geopolitical and the game theory, the, the game theory of like adoption by institution and nation states and the last couple of months ago. All right. Let's get back to basics.

00:14:08:04 - 00:14:35:25
Marty
What how did this newsletter start? This podcast start? It was literally talking to people, building the technology that's going to enable us to leverage Bitcoin and in a way that we want to. So it seems like mutiny fed Zap, right? Like really diving into what they're doing, the Tommy Mint explosion that's happening on top of Bitcoin, like diving into those different protocols and the products being built rapidly, quickly seeing Monster begin to flourish.

00:14:35:25 - 00:14:38:05
Marty
It's there's a lot of hope there.

00:14:38:09 - 00:15:02:02
Rod
100%. I mean, look, nation state adoption, corporate balance sheet getting out of Bitcoin soon. Those are conversations for smarter people than me. And I think eventually it happens. You know, Professor Hendrickson had a really good point. It was like, is nation state adoption a good thing for Bitcoin? Like, why do you want a nation to start consolidating a Bitcoin position?

00:15:02:04 - 00:15:29:15
Rod
And I think he's right in the sense that grassroots Bitcoin adoption of freedom technology is the way to go because educating, enabling people, touching the stove, understanding the power. If we go top down, then there's like the trust layers of, all right, I'm going to trust this third party and trust this ETF. I'm going to trust this, you know, merchant to manage all my Bitcoin or my treasury or my medium exchange or whatever it is.

00:15:29:17 - 00:15:55:10
Rod
And that's why I love the community aspect. I love these small businesses, I love entrepreneurs like Drew D'Agostino, who yet in your pod amazing, amazing entrepreneur adopts Bitcoin on his balance sheet, has a great sass business, great cash flow business. And now he has more. He's empowered to make better longer term decisions by adopting a Bitcoin standard.

00:15:55:12 - 00:16:02:27
Marty
I have not had him on this podcast, you know? Drew well, he was on the podcast on the whole Bitcoin Frontier by Joe BURNETT.

00:16:03:01 - 00:16:08:12
Rod
But it was in late episode. Was it okay, maybe there was some, maybe you clipped it, that's why. And then I yeah, we.

00:16:08:12 - 00:16:42:21
Marty
Clipped it on Twitter because it was that good. But I've gotten to know Drew, we have a mutual friend who's a Bitcoin or has been for a while, but let's tell the story like Crystal, like it's just a small SAS company. And Drew, the founder, has become a Bitcoin or and he is an example of the game theory that Bitcoiners have talked about for many years now playing out where he does not have Bitcoin implemented into his product, but he recognizes it's a small business totally.

00:16:42:23 - 00:16:55:01
Marty
If I want to not dilute myself by going and raising a bunch of VC capital, I need to extend my runway by adopting a better treasury asset on my small business balance sheet.

00:16:55:04 - 00:17:17:05
Rod
You nailed it. I mean, the guy is so smart, so humble, so caring, and now he's got this tool and Bitcoin at the end of day, in my opinion, it's just a tool, a tool for a company CEO to preserve their future purchasing power better than any other investable asset. And now he can make better long term decisions, he can make better hiring decisions.

00:17:17:08 - 00:17:59:10
Rod
He can do so many better things about his business and also frees him up so much time to then potentially hire better people to run the business. And I think as we get fixated on a I new technologies Bitcoin enabled companies, I think there's a massive opportunity in these small businesses, especially the blue collar type businesses, where a lot of them don't have an inheritance or a what do they call it, like a hand-me-down plan because their kids are like, you know, working at Google or doing some of their own Joker stuff.

00:17:59:12 - 00:18:36:00
Rod
And to take over those businesses adopt like the Drew playbook, you know, operate on a Bitcoin standard, maintain cash flow, maintain a good LTV, could cash, can do all the business terms and blah, blah, blah. And it's just like amazing. And that's where this next act I'm thinking through a lot more is we're going to the Bitcoin Park is still a project in its infancy and we've been actually June one, which is today's the 29th in two days will be our two year anniversary, which is freaking wild to even think about, by the way, Fun fact.

00:18:36:00 - 00:18:43:06
Rod
Logan Fun fact. You ready for this state of Tennessee's birthday? June one as well?

00:18:43:08 - 00:18:44:27
Marty
What year.

00:18:45:00 - 00:18:49:20
Rod
Logan? What year? Come on. Is he swiping left and right?

00:18:49:24 - 00:18:52:20
Marty
Yeah. You got Bumble over there to.

00:18:52:23 - 00:18:54:07
Rod
It's going to be hot. You see.

00:18:54:09 - 00:19:00:25
Rod
I went from zero podcasts and now I'm going to be doing three podcasts. I do the podcast takes with.

00:19:00:27 - 00:19:02:01

1796.

00:19:02:02 - 00:19:15:05
Rod
There we go, 1796, 1796, up to 2022, and then Bitcoin Park starting June one of 2022 and.

00:19:15:12 - 00:19:17:11
Marty
26 years. It's all talk.

00:19:17:15 - 00:19:18:22

That they get the math right.

00:19:18:22 - 00:19:26:09
Marty
Logan I think I did. I don't know what number you just said. 226.

00:19:26:12 - 00:19:29:01
Rod
You got a computer in front of you if you need.

00:19:29:03 - 00:19:35:26

I'm just basing it on my birthday at the.

00:19:35:29 - 00:19:40:14
Rod
But with the park. I kind of lost my train of thought. We got the.

00:19:40:14 - 00:19:45:21
Marty
The part two of the six builders of Bitcoin. Yeah. Okay.

00:19:45:24 - 00:19:50:15
Rod
It's only the one with the monthly bitcoin brainstorm with Cathy. What I mean which is you're going to calculate.

00:19:50:18 - 00:19:52:01
Marty
Not mention that to begin.

00:19:52:01 - 00:20:13:00
Rod
Yeah, that's, it's wild. It's been so much fun doing that one. How did that come about you since a friend and we've been talking about for like a a long time figuring out ways that we can just work together. And then he it was his idea. I mean, he finally was like, Look, let's just do a podcast. How about that?

00:20:13:03 - 00:20:39:21
Rod
And we'll do a podcast. You create it and curate the guest list. No, like, you know, use me as much as you want to use me or don't use me at all. And then he is like, will produce it and distribute it. You know, they got incredible reach and I was like, All right, let's do it. And then the first podcast we did and I was like, All right, you know, Kathy's cool and she's great.

00:20:39:21 - 00:21:04:06
Rod
She's really engaging. We should probably just do this one time. And then, you know, go on about her day because she's really, um, she's been on every single podcast and I know now she's like, looks forward to it every single month. And it's been really, really cool. So every month I'm like tech. Something like, here's a topic I'm thinking about, whether it relates to the monthly topic of Bitcoin Park, because that's what I did.

00:21:04:06 - 00:21:21:00
Rod
I was like, All right, I don't want to create even more work for myself. Every month we do a different topic at Bitcoin Park for our monthly meet up. We bring gas. I kind of do the same topic for the monthly brainstorm and then I'll invite other guests to come on and so on. And I mean, it's dope.

00:21:21:00 - 00:21:45:23
Rod
I mean, I've had, you know, people from like Rockstar Dev to Luke Dash Dasher to Mahler's to Preston to I mean, the list goes on. I've just awesome bitcoiners on that show. And they were kind enough. They created their own Bitcoin brainstorm playlist amongst our huge YouTube channels. So you can just go to that channel and subscribe to it.

00:21:45:26 - 00:22:14:17
Rod
They allow us to take the content, put it on the Bitcoin Park feed. So if you're on listening on the podcast, you can just subscribe to the Bitcoin Park podcast feed. And um, yeah, and I think there's going to be some them being close to the bitcoiners that are building and developing in this space I think is a great thing for them and I think they're going to do some really interesting stuff in the future.

00:22:14:21 - 00:22:18:06
Marty
What is your favorite conversation that you've had on that show?

00:22:18:09 - 00:22:44:01
Rod
Oh man, it's like she's my favorite kid. Okay, I have one. I'm the I conversation with Paul E toy and Killer Killer and Cody Low. And we had a number of other guests on there and just Paul's such a big brain. And you can tell go and watch that episode and look at Kathy and her colleague. I forget the gentleman's name.

00:22:44:03 - 00:23:11:11
Rod
They're like, it's opening up new potentials, especially with what their their thesis and perspective, especially on agents and such. And Paul is just the use the potential use cases of combining agents and Bitcoin. It's going to hit us like a ton of bricks. That one was great. The first one with Marlon and Obi and Preston and Harry. That was phenomenal.

00:23:11:11 - 00:23:37:01
Rod
And we did one with On Custody, which was really cool. We did one on fast development. We had Steve Myers from the BTK Foundation on Mike Schmidt from Brink. Just if you go to that playlist, if you don't mind, go and look at the topics. And I'm pretty proud of the the way we've curated those topics and the guests that we've had on.

00:23:37:04 - 00:23:45:04
Rod
Tony from Mutiny has been on when we're talking about Layer Two's, even though now I can't, I don't like saying layer twos, but.

00:23:45:07 - 00:23:46:04
Marty
Two's bound.

00:23:46:06 - 00:24:22:18
Rod
Up it's is al2 season or something. Um God that was bastardized but, but it's that's been really fun because that's like a world that I'm not as familiar with like the institutional side of finance and bitcoin. I'm more on the super individual grassroots community side. So it's kind of weird when I'm like, Oh yeah, I mean, it kind of alchemist's do this Pod 56 pleb ish mining focused mining podcast.

00:24:22:20 - 00:24:29:11
Rod
And I'm like, Oh yeah. And my other co-host here is Cathie Wood on the Bitcoin brainstormed like, Who are you? I'm like, I don't even know who I am.

00:24:29:11 - 00:24:30:22
Marty
It's called Breath in the industry.

00:24:30:25 - 00:24:37:12
Rod
That's right. That's right. But now you seen Amanda, who's a legend, who's a friend, mutual friend of ours, um, in the.

00:24:37:14 - 00:24:38:01
Marty
King.

00:24:38:03 - 00:24:40:27
Rod
Of All credit goes to him. He's the man.

00:24:40:29 - 00:25:06:27
Marty
Yeah. And I mean, to that point, too, since you're doing the brainstorm and part 256, I think I think you have a unique perspective on how this all interplays with each other. The grassroots. It's web miners, individuals looking to secure their wealth and then the institutions. And it's obviously a hot topic in space, particularly over the last year, which is the institutions are here.

00:25:06:27 - 00:25:17:02
Marty
Like are they going to corrupt Bitcoin? Like, should we, like, tell people not to interact with them? What is your view on how all this is going to play together?

00:25:17:04 - 00:25:40:24
Rod
I, I keep going back to time preference and I keep thinking about my kids. I'm like short term, if I just one of my bags packed and number go up, I'd be full throated endorsing all nation state adoption, corporate adoption, balance sheets, ETFs, everything you'd see me tweeting about, like political donations, like the whole nine yards, in my opinion.

00:25:40:24 - 00:26:28:02
Rod
And again, this is my opinion. I don't know if I'm right or not. That's just not the winning move. The winning move is if you give up the community and give up the ethos of what the free home technology that Bitcoin allows for all of humanity. There is a solution where Bitcoin does not, or there's a scenario where Bitcoin does not win in the sense that if corporate adoption or institutional adoption becomes the majority of the way we use Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is like, you know, a million, 2 million, $5 million a coin and we can barely use it to, um, to send to anybody we permissionless we want to that is not even though

00:26:28:03 - 00:26:52:29
Rod
my life would be my, my life would be awesome. I'm not sure about my kid's life my my other my grandkids life. So I do think it's of immense importance to not what's the term like, not throw the baby out with the bathwater in terms of just trying to get this number to go up so fast and drive insane.

00:26:53:02 - 00:27:18:19
Rod
Quote, I think we need to also figure out what our definition of adoption is, is corporate balance sheet adoption through a third party like Coinbase, adoption of Bitcoin, or is it, you know, folks setting up? Uh, and I feel like I just don't have enough time to like, study all the different implementations from like E Cash to Fatty to, um, what mutiny in those guys are building?

00:27:18:24 - 00:27:35:26
Rod
Is it better to go hand to hand and build up from the individuals in the communities? I'm betting with my time, capital and reputation on the ladder and helping build Bitcoin Park, helping these other communities across the world flourish?

00:27:35:29 - 00:27:57:29
Marty
Yeah, yeah. It's something I've been reflecting on a lot too, and it's when I always fall back to our mission and system. People can do what they want with it, including the institutions. And to your point, I said this I was on the Mike and Coffee podcast a couple of weeks ago and that's my biggest worry. Is that what you just described or was?

00:27:57:29 - 00:28:06:08
Marty
Again, our banks are getting pumped, numbers going up, everything's great. But while that's happening, they're like, You guys can't do this anymore.

00:28:06:10 - 00:28:27:08
Rod
Don't worry. It's in your best interest that we don't send it those off back addresses or we're going to just do a little bit of this filtering here for you guys. It's in your best interests. You want your number to go from what is earnest like. You know, uh, 65,000 bucks to 650,000 bucks. Again, I want the number to go up to.

00:28:27:09 - 00:28:48:12
Rod
Do not get me wrong, I'm not trying to be some altruistic, you know, whatever. But, um, I do believe that number is just eventually going to get there. And then I want to figure out the best path to get there. I think we all need to think more critically about going all the way back to the beginning of the pot, all the small decisions that we're making now and how they compound.

00:28:48:12 - 00:29:11:01
Rod
Are they good, positive decisions that compound in the best interest of, you know, you your family community in the world, or are they slightly negative potentially evil decisions that we're making now that can compound in a negative manner for you, your family, your community in the world? And I think very critically about that.

00:29:11:03 - 00:29:46:08
Marty
And I think it's important to realize, too, that these are all social aspects, like it's really a mindset and a will to fight to defend the rights. See, is Bitcoin the way to enable our children and grandchildren ultimately to have the ability to to use Bitcoin this way. That's that comes down to messaging and positioning framing and I agree with you like that is the disconcerting thing about all this political pandering that's been going on in recent months.

00:29:46:08 - 00:29:58:20
Marty
It's like, it's like the I mean, the text I got this morning was just like I got like in the group of people, I won't name names, but in not in Bitcoin, like in crypto.

00:29:58:21 - 00:30:19:24
Rod
Yeah, this is their first time. And again, I want to preface this by saying like, I don't know, these are my opinions and I 100% be wrong. And I just, I think this is where I hope to spend my actions and such. This is also, in their defense, probably the first time where they have the audience of these people or their ear.

00:30:19:26 - 00:30:38:00
Rod
So they're like when the lights are on the and they're really bright and they got the attention of this person is like, uh, the, you know, and they just say whatever comes to mind. And then the other side is like, okay, cool, can do that. But you know how the system works, right? You got to do this, this and this.

00:30:38:00 - 00:31:04:11
Rod
And they're like, okay, no problem. Yes, sir. And then you realize quickly, you're like, Wait, you're playing their game rather than changing the game that's already kind of corrupted and in the self-interest of a minority. And I think that's where I hope we can do something different, especially whether it's leveraging Bitcoin Park and these other communities globally to say, we've got the community.

00:31:04:16 - 00:31:19:08
Rod
If you lose the community, you lose everything. And if we have the community locally and potentially globally behind us and we're continuing to go on about our life and then they want to participate in being involved more power to them.

00:31:19:10 - 00:31:28:11
Marty
Yeah, I could see like I have the little Rodolfo on my shoulder, like now. I thought.

00:31:28:11 - 00:31:29:26
Rod
You show me your guns for a second and you.

00:31:29:26 - 00:31:36:13
Marty
Said, you know, the concealed carry in the commons. I'm fortunate I'm not concealing right now.

00:31:36:16 - 00:31:39:25
Rod
Logan, You take a picture of that. So they can get that as a clip.

00:31:39:29 - 00:31:41:09

But that.

00:31:41:11 - 00:31:49:23
Rod
That quick tangent, that's those are the shots Logan where he goes from three. So how many followers you have on Twitter? Like 200, 300,000 to.

00:31:49:24 - 00:31:50:09
Marty
200.

00:31:50:09 - 00:32:02:00
Rod
Is them. Damn, that's another sound where you hit that you that's where for the what do you call the thumbnails. You just put that out there and he goes from 200 to 300. Now Vegas.

00:32:02:00 - 00:32:05:26
Marty
I get Jack talking about Bitcoin.

00:32:05:29 - 00:32:06:21

Do pushups.

00:32:06:21 - 00:32:08:15
Rod
And just like flex their muscles.

00:32:08:18 - 00:32:19:28
Marty
Um, that's I was pointing to my shoulder I got and became my shoulder right now saying now we need bitcoin to go up and then we can we have to play the game and I can see that view and almost like.

00:32:20:01 - 00:32:31:27
Rod
Yeah, I don't think we have to play their game to be honest with you. I think the game I think we can play within the game for sure, but we don't have to play.

00:32:31:29 - 00:32:46:03
Marty
Yeah, well that's going back to like messaging, framing. I think again white pill, we're going to win the corners, show some self-respect. We have the best beamers. Yeah.

00:32:46:06 - 00:32:53:06

I know. It's a pretty good job. It seems killer. By the way. The guy is like throw involves left and right. I'm like that.

00:32:53:09 - 00:33:01:19
Rod
Maybe the Twitter algo. For some reason I haven't been seeing his tweets, but now I'm just seeing all of his tweets. I'm like, just King, King Kings.

00:33:01:22 - 00:33:03:17

Thank you, sir. He's fiery.

00:33:03:17 - 00:33:04:13
Rod
Left to right.

00:33:04:18 - 00:33:20:02
Marty
But at the end of the day, this is really winning hearts and minds. And the worry I have is that some people have become convinced that the only vehicles through which we can win hearts of minds by politicians.

00:33:20:08 - 00:33:21:12
Rod
Now.

00:33:21:15 - 00:33:40:02
Marty
Proclaiming to the people that vote them in like, this is what we're going to do. You voted for me. Here's my pitch to you to win your heart mind about Bitcoin. I don't I don't think that's the case either. I think we can route around that, just go directly to the hearts and minds and and win them. Yeah, with good messaging, good framing.

00:33:40:05 - 00:33:41:07
Rod
And the best money.

00:33:41:14 - 00:33:43:20
Marty
And the best money. We got the truth on our side.

00:33:43:24 - 00:33:49:17
Rod
We deal with the truth. The commoner. Yes. Yeah. I love that tagline. Yeah.

00:33:49:19 - 00:33:59:24
Marty
It's hard, though, because it is like again in the moment, similar to like in the moment when you're doomscrolling and filled in to the vitriol in the moment, we're like, All right, you want to sit at the table? It's like, come on.

00:33:59:26 - 00:34:06:28
Rod
All right, so the Doomscrolling you've brought that up two or three times now, Have you stopped Doomscrolling for the most part of chatter?

00:34:06:28 - 00:34:09:17
Marty
Yes. Okay. And that's to be leading the algorithm.

00:34:09:17 - 00:34:17:13
Rod
Yeah. So you got to. Well, your day. So what's worked for me, Elise? I've turned off all notifications because I.

00:34:17:13 - 00:34:18:07
Marty
Used to be like.

00:34:18:07 - 00:34:39:27
Rod
Notifications, but like, literally the feature on and this is not a new feature, but cutting the summary view of like just organizing all your notifications in a morning and evening view. So I'll get one not like in the first thing in the morning, but like, I don't know, eight or nine. I'll get like all my notifications. I'm like, okay, respond.

00:34:39:27 - 00:35:05:23
Rod
And this more. And then it's helped me just move out all the bullshit that just because there's so much stuff that just context switching and just takes away from my mental energy when something like, you know, I see Marty flexing his muscle because Logan tweeted it out and I'm like, Well, my day is gone now. I got to get my you know, I had to do a thousand push ups just to compete with them.

00:35:05:25 - 00:35:13:05
Rod
It yeah, just get off the Doomscrolling reduce the notifications to zero has been such a good life hack for.

00:35:13:05 - 00:35:17:19
Marty
Me that's I need to adopt that summary notification.

00:35:17:21 - 00:35:18:24
Rod
It's so good.

00:35:18:27 - 00:35:24:12
Marty
And that's I actually saw a clip of this on Twitter ironically the other day.

00:35:24:15 - 00:35:26:21
Rod
Scrolling through Twitter and ironically I saw this clip.

00:35:26:21 - 00:35:50:18
Marty
But it was an I suffer from this problem a lot. And so if you're listening, you're one of the people that is who's been affected by me suffering from this problem. I apologize. But you get to decision paralysis when you get text emails, signal messages, telegram messages, Twitter, DMS. And for me personally, I'm like, holy fuck, there's this like too much to respond to.

00:35:50:21 - 00:35:54:25
Marty
Then it's sort of like, push it down again. I'll get to it later than you forget.

00:35:54:25 - 00:36:17:23
Rod
So here's another app that I use and it's kind of still shit, but it actually works for the most part. It's called Tech Stockholm. It's a unified messaging app there. Definitely, probably reading all my messages and so on. You know, not probably the best privacy centric tool out there, but at for my signal telegram, Twitter, DMS.

00:36:17:25 - 00:36:18:29
Marty
Or.

00:36:19:01 - 00:36:38:05
Rod
Does it? Yeah, telegram all in one unified dashboard. So all time block like around 2 to 4 p.m. and I'll just be like, all right, catching up on looks like called my shutdown routine for the day. Like all my messages that I got to catch up on. Like, not many of my stuff is time sensitive, whereas years, maybe more time sensitive.

00:36:38:05 - 00:36:58:00
Rod
So you got to respond. The folks the, um, but my I'm the left side. I'm 100% on the left side of the bell curve when it comes to like smarts. If there's a notification that comes up, I will switch whatever I'm doing and just give it my complete, undivided attention and it'll fuck me up for the whole day.

00:36:58:02 - 00:37:12:14
Rod
And so I try to do these time blocks where I'm like, All right, this is the mindset for going responding back to all these people, getting back to these people, responding to email cleaning that up, and then figuring out what I want to do for the rest of the day or next day.

00:37:12:17 - 00:37:42:05
Marty
Yeah. And when you think about it with this guy in the Twitter video was proclaiming that the humanity of the course of human history, like people have this decision paralysis because we've had the ability to just reach out and contact anybody. Yeah. For most of human history, like literally even like till nineties, arguably like you'd have to be by a landline to physically or if you had a beeper or a cell phone.

00:37:42:06 - 00:37:45:08
Rod
Or so much coordination, just even like communicate.

00:37:45:09 - 00:38:03:27
Marty
And now we live in this age where it's like anybody can reach out, like not even people that, you know, people you don't know. Just like, like I need your attention. You're like, Oh, what the fuck? Trying to react to that? Like literally of not chemically evolved to take in all this contact. It totally. Yeah.

00:38:03:29 - 00:38:26:21
Rod
There's just so many good hacks like you've built. Amazing. Now the next thing I would say, or at least what's worked for me, is how do you get more leverage such that you increase your time for more thinking and more really strategic thinking of how to best utilize that time? You got two young, beautiful kids you got. There's a stat that's on my phone.

00:38:26:21 - 00:39:01:11
Rod
I don't know where my phone is, but, uh, 75% of the time you'll spend with your kids is over by the time they're 12. And then 90% of the time you're going to spend with your kids is over by their 18. And I'm like, All right, it sucks that I didn't had kids kind of later in life, but I'm so dang thankful that I now have these kids and have this mindset because my non-negotiables are like my morning 2 hours with the kids, take them to school now, take them to camp, breakfast, morning routine and so on.

00:39:01:14 - 00:39:08:00
Rod
By the way, I'm a great morning, Dad. I need to be a better nighttime dad because I'm like kids.

00:39:08:03 - 00:39:14:26

7:00, Daddy. Tired, nighttime, kind of go to fucking sleep, you know, like.

00:39:14:29 - 00:39:35:27
Rod
Good it laying the hammer down. But but yeah, I mean, like, what's the line like? The days are long, but the years are short, and we're going to go like this morning. Well, hopefully be on upon 15, 16 years and we'll be like, Dude, it went by so fucking fast.

00:39:36:00 - 00:40:03:12
Marty
That's crazy. We had a we had our first epic wipe out on the scooter over the weekend. Their oldest I've been really where I'm skateboard, surf, get into all that stuff. And for us, starting with the scooter and we've been doing a weekend scooters around Lady Bird lakes for miles a lot of scooter ing for uncle. When you go over Lamar Street walking bridge, there's like a downward loop de loop.

00:40:03:14 - 00:40:16:18
Marty
Yeah. You can go down and this was the second time we'd done it. First time I, like, had my hand on the shoulder, making sure it going just is this time is like that don't you don't you touch me like I send it. I said.

00:40:16:21 - 00:40:17:19

Let's go.

00:40:17:21 - 00:40:19:25
Marty
Over the handlebars like scraped up.

00:40:19:25 - 00:40:22:21
Rod
But that's okay. Okay.

00:40:22:25 - 00:40:35:14
Marty
No, it's a great teaching. Well, hey buddy, skin these are good. This is what happens. You're going to take risk. And I mean, I said it in a more rudimentary level is like, Yeah, you're going to go fast, you're going to fall and it's.

00:40:35:14 - 00:40:36:12
Rod
Going to go right back up.

00:40:36:12 - 00:40:41:26
Marty
But you're going to be fine. You got back up. You tried for like 20 seconds. Now you're fine. You're fine.

00:40:41:29 - 00:41:04:23
Rod
You know what's I want to say with our like when our kids fall down? Well, what do we do? Get right back up. Yeah, that's it. It's. It's all mindset with these kids. There's so amazing. It's all in their mind. If you put in fear or doubt in their mind, they're going to take it like 100 acts. But if you put it in Septem with positive positivity or enthusiasm, they're like, Yeah, okay, okay, I can do that.

00:41:04:27 - 00:41:05:12
Rod
I can do that.

00:41:05:12 - 00:41:11:17
Marty
Yeah, No. And especially when they eat shit on a scooter, they just like, do not be like, Oh my God, are you guys like, you find it.

00:41:11:19 - 00:41:14:19
Rod
Exactly 100%. I love it.

00:41:14:23 - 00:41:17:24
Marty
Just a little blood never hurt anybody. No.

00:41:17:27 - 00:41:21:05
Rod
Lugging you skateboard? No.

00:41:21:08 - 00:41:22:20
Marty
Look in the swing dancer.

00:41:22:23 - 00:41:31:21

Are you a swing dancer? I am. I did a pop. Shove it one time. You did a what did I pop? Shove it one time. That's my extent of skating.

00:41:31:24 - 00:41:37:25
Marty
That's a good move. That's a big reverse pop show. That guy back in the day onto the board into a gnarly.

00:41:37:27 - 00:41:44:18
Rod
Oh, okay. I'm not going to. Act like I know what the fuck you guys are talking about, but sounds cool. Yeah.

00:41:44:21 - 00:41:59:00
Marty
That's a it's important stuff all the time. Preference focusing on the good things. What were you most excited about in Bitcoin right now in terms of like areas that people should be focusing on that maybe they're overlooking.

00:41:59:03 - 00:42:28:05
Rod
The point around Drew or we're talking about like these small businesses and even large businesses like one other publicly traded company came out and said they're holding a little bitcoin on there or they bought a bunch of Bitcoin and now holding on as a Treasury asset. The benefit there, it gives the air coverage and also more marketing to small businesses like you be the small business owner and you may have a a position in one of these companies like, wait a minute, you're holding Bitcoin.

00:42:28:05 - 00:43:12:04
Rod
Let me go research that now. Oh, maybe I should go do that as well for my small business. So that's kind of cool. I'm I'm enamored by entrepreneurship. I think it's one of the coolest, the coolest people I've associated myself with and learn from our entrepreneurs and be able to say no to very, quote unquote stable jobs and stable money and a cushy life to say, I'm going to throw all that out and go roll the dice to go in and something that new that's, you know, I think valuable for the community and society and I'll get paid for it.

00:43:12:07 - 00:43:30:20
Rod
I think that's just so awesome. And I think there's so many opportunities for Bitcoin focused people to become entrepreneurs. So I think there will be some things in 2025 at the park that will be, you know, doing to support those efforts which which could be massive.

00:43:30:25 - 00:43:35:29
Marty
Oh yeah. What would your advice be to aspiring entrepreneurs out there?

00:43:36:02 - 00:44:06:12
Rod
Start like today. Today is tomorrow. Literally, you got this. Today is tomorrow. You can do this, do the side, hustle, work the weekends, figure out if you have the time. So like you are waking up 530, six, 630 with the kids waking up. Right. So let's say you're like, Marty, you have two kids and so on, but Marty's already got five businesses running, so he's earned he's earned the right to figure out his own schedule.

00:44:06:15 - 00:44:29:18
Rod
You need to create more time and more leverage of your time for you. So start waking up at 430 and before the kids get up, give yourself the 2 hours being 430 and 630 and sacrifice that time such that you can go and, you know, do X, y, or Z, and even even one hour a day, five or five days a week, that's 20 hours a month.

00:44:29:21 - 00:44:54:09
Rod
It's almost a full day dedicated towards this entrepreneurial endeavor. And one of the big things, you know, don't quit your day job, but just create the time to do this and then figure out how to be cash flow positive from like day zero, like. And then all of a sudden cash is is cash flow is the most amazing drug in the sense that once you see the cash flow coming in, you're like, Holy shit.

00:44:54:11 - 00:45:08:24
Rod
Well, if I turn this knob a little bit or I do this, there's more of this comes out. Oh, this is really interesting. Wait a minute. I really enjoy. But by the way, the stuff that I'm doing right now gives me a lot of energy. I'm really excited now to wake up at 430 in the morning to do this project.

00:45:08:26 - 00:45:25:26
Rod
So if all that starts happening, then all of a sudden you have leverage over your current employer. Maybe you still enjoy it and you should still do it. But let's say you don't like to do the TPS reports. Maybe you don't like to get on the planes and fly you need to go to because someone's telling you you need to do that or whatever.

00:45:25:28 - 00:45:38:02
Rod
And now all of a sudden you just create a leverage for yourself and your family and but it starts with you at the end of the day, you need to make the time. But the tldr is you can do this start today.

00:45:38:04 - 00:45:43:01
Marty
Yeah. Side hustles. It's all this started.

00:45:43:04 - 00:45:44:12
Rod
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

00:45:44:14 - 00:46:02:14
Marty
And just say, uh, I'm unemployed. It wasn't really a sign. It was a man of my life. It was, uh, I've got, I've got my back was against the wall. It was like, people want to learn about bitcoin. They know about quickly. We put my thoughts out there, and then here we are today.

00:46:02:14 - 00:46:31:06
Rod
It's so amazing and look like a lot of things in life. Uh, luck plays a good role, but the harder you work, the luckier you become. I think that's like a Thomas Jefferson quote. And then also finding whatever your passion about, like Logan's got the number one swing dancing ball blog out there in the world. You know, the guys like talking about swing dancing all day long, and you never know what can happen, whether it's super niche.

00:46:31:06 - 00:46:53:12
Rod
I actually kind of like the super niche stuff because there's so much potential with super niche stuff to build defensive businesses around that because nobody wants to play in your moat. Like, I'm never going to go into this one. Maybe I will. Is it a good business? Swing dancing? Uh, kind of.

00:46:53:14 - 00:46:56:24

I I'm unfamiliar with any business side of it. And there.

00:46:56:24 - 00:47:36:00
Rod
You go. But, uh, I, I think there's so many opportunities. And it was the Kevin Kelly book, the 1000 true fans. In today's day and age, to the point you made earlier, Marty, I think everyone can get in touch with everybody, but they the ability to get in touch with people so easy to communicate. Marketing is so easy today with all the platforms out there to be able to build a brand, to be able to build distribution mechanisms, the ideas are pretty cheap to to experiment and not lose, you know, everything.

00:47:36:05 - 00:47:45:12
Rod
You can just iterate, iterate, iterate. And at the end of the day you just need the will. And it's at nobody's default other than you just to do it.

00:47:45:15 - 00:47:47:29
Marty
The barrier to entry has never been lower.

00:47:48:01 - 00:47:48:25
Rod
100%.

00:47:48:25 - 00:48:04:17
Marty
And the tools now have never been more powerful to provide you bigger leverage. I mean, you're texting me last week and telling me before we hit record, but being smart and leveraging tools and services to give yourself more time.

00:48:04:19 - 00:48:06:03
Rod
100%.

00:48:06:05 - 00:48:25:27
Marty
We do it here at the FTC right now leveraging A.I. tools to put more content on the website, turn audio, video content and the written content and link back to it, which is been somewhat successful to date. And but you're you're talking about the admin side too, because that's one thing I need to get better at as a business operator.

00:48:25:29 - 00:48:28:02
Marty
This company specifically is the admin side.

00:48:28:07 - 00:48:48:11
Rod
Yeah. I mean, you know, the biggest unlock in the last nine ish months almost a year has been just one of these virtual assistants and training it. And then but even taking a step back, it's like, all right, you have all your to do if you're like me, your to do list just gets longer and longer and longer.

00:48:48:13 - 00:49:44:05
Rod
And then there's stuff that's like deep fun, really important work that's important, not urgent. I think this was like Dwight Eisenhower. And by the way, it's like important, urgent, like the Eisenhower Matrix. Maybe I'll have to fact check me on this, but it's, like, important, urgent, important. Not urgent. Urgent. Not important. Not or not important. Not urgent. And there's just so much stuff in the even those other three quadrants that just need to be done and move forward that you can delegate to, you know, your team, whether it's an amazing podcast producer like Logan to a virtual assistant to take care of to other from bookkeeping standpoint, a lot of entrepreneurs, they don't include myself

00:49:44:05 - 00:50:10:19
Rod
until like the last couple of years. I just like, I can do that, I can send that invoice, I can do this, I can all these little things. And I still take a lot of pride in understanding the process and and making sure I'm in the details. But being able to free up my time where a 30 minute task that needs to be, let's say in our town, that needs to be done weekly is 4 hours a month.

00:50:10:22 - 00:50:36:29
Rod
4 hours times 12 is 48 hours. So that one hour task saves me two days of my life. Imagine two days to concentrate more on your business, right? In two days more time spent with your family. Two days to start a new side hustle, right? Think through it on that one. Bookkeeping monthly month end closing tasks that drains your energy like.

00:50:36:29 - 00:50:53:05
Rod
One of the things that I struggled with was I took on so much that a lot of the stuff was draining my energy. So then when I come home, I just be like so depleted. When I started my days, I'm going like, look at my like, like to dos for the day and all the things I needed to get done.

00:50:53:07 - 00:51:18:05
Rod
But I was just like, you know, I'm not this is not fun. It's not giving me energy. But after putting in these processes, really scrutinizing over the team and being like, okay, I can delegate these things where they actually really enjoy this stuff and they do what they do 10 to 100 times better than I do in general, and it's freed me up to be able to be like, All right, let's go start experiment here.

00:51:18:05 - 00:51:41:00
Rod
Let's go do this thing over there. Let's go have more of these strategic meetings and talk about bigger things that we could be doing together. So for you, I mean, you're killing it across the board and it's like, all right, what's the next level up? If if you could answer this question, if you had more time in your day, if you even had one extra hour or two extra hours, what would you do with it?

00:51:41:03 - 00:52:09:25
Rod
What is fine it like? I now spend almost like an hour, an hour and a half a day on personal health. So I try to get to the gym at least for one hour, doing like these hit classes or whatever. I push ups in the morning and I was a it's a fun joke around here, but and then I'll try to do like the cold plunge and like all these like things because if I'm healthy, then I'm a better husband, I'm a better father and I'm a better entrepreneur.

00:52:09:27 - 00:52:34:01
Rod
So and I'm like, that's like a one area of such 20, 25, I actually want to I'm doing it so much that now the next level up to learn even more to teach it. So I really want to teach this with other entrepreneurs. Actually, I don't know if I told you this. I think I did because I think I've invited I'm hosting these monthly entrepreneur dinners in Nashville.

00:52:34:03 - 00:53:01:02
Rod
And it's it's been really cool just to 2025 folks. Um, Athena's the service that I use and they've been phenomenal. They're definitely a higher price point, but it's the ROI has been phenomenal and they've been kind enough to kind of sponsor these dinners. And it was I, I get these entrepreneurs together and we just jam on what is holding us up or what are the opportunities we see go forward.

00:53:01:02 - 00:53:14:05
Rod
And I hope a lot of bitcoiners at the dinner, but I also try to bring in other entrepreneurs from other industry and then all of a sudden then cross-pollinate these different ideas. And it's been it's been a lot of fun.

00:53:14:11 - 00:53:35:20
Marty
Yeah. I think for me, again, this started out as main hustle. It should have been a side hustle for those unemployed. I think for me, I did everything myself for so long. Like I was like before Logan we had a car and like, it was really weird for me handing off like the editing and producing to car. And now.

00:53:35:20 - 00:53:56:12
Rod
Logan Now think about it right now with that right, you're able to do you had another gentleman on earlier today. You have me now. And then Cathy was about to come in and there's no like you're not even I mean, I have not even felt one second you give me your undivided attention here where other people would be like, I mean, I got to get this podcast done.

00:53:56:12 - 00:54:10:18
Rod
I got to I got to do like 30 minutes of work, post this, then I got to go do this. Then I got to be ready for this interview or this podcast, and then I got to go do that. All of a sudden, if you delegate a lot of that work out, it frees you up to be more present in.

00:54:10:18 - 00:54:15:16
Rod
The stuff that is really, really important. It's phenomenal. Oh.

00:54:15:18 - 00:54:39:27
Marty
That is it's like that. The book's scheduling. Yeah, that's one thing I still haven't handed over is like scheduling. Guess for the podcast I still that, that's still hand-to-hand combat and there is an art to that like reaching out and saying that. But that's like one thing. If I don't have the time of the day to focus on scheduling, like the schedule is hindered by that.

00:54:39:27 - 00:54:41:01
Marty
And so it's like, so the.

00:54:41:01 - 00:55:15:20
Rod
Two things yeah, there I would say, and by the way, my volume of podcasts and also sophistication and brand is like 100 acts smaller than yours. So but so take this, whatever I'm saying with a grain of salt. But I time block only on Wednesdays as I'm doing my part 256 between two and 4 p.m.. Uh, brainstorm. For the most part we only do in afternoons on Tuesdays or Thursdays of every month so that I can like mentally again, I'm like Pavlov's dog, you know, ring bell.

00:55:15:20 - 00:55:37:18
Rod
I, like, salivate. It's like, okay, Wednesday afternoon, I'm like, Oh, yeah, I should be ready and mentally into podcast mode. Um, and like, I don't do any, ah, for the most part, don't do any meetings before noon. And then it's sort of like I'm just like slowly training my freaking monkey brain to be more mentally ready around these.

00:55:37:20 - 00:55:57:29
Rod
So from the on the scheduling and the, and then the, the booking side, just being able to be like, All right, here are my recording blocks and then you just look on your calendar. I use a tool called CQI Flow where time blocking has been a game changer for me so I can time block all these things and to look out in my calendar and be like, All right, cool.

00:55:57:29 - 00:56:17:11
Rod
I do my podcast. I don't have any things going on in these podcasts. Let me go reach out to these folks like a month out and I set up the task. I do that and then everything is kind of lined up there, or you delegate that and you say, Hey, here's some templates to use, or you know, you just keep doing it yourself because you find energy in that.

00:56:17:11 - 00:56:26:08
Rod
You enjoyed doing that because there's like a little bit of a aren't knowing the people and kind of some of the topics you want to talk about, which I think is totally fine.

00:56:26:13 - 00:56:44:15
Marty
Yeah, it is. I'm excited to talk about this with you now and then after record too, because that's one thing I need to figure out how to create more. Time is a notoriously disorganized night. It's one thing I write my journal every time I write as I get more organized. Please.

00:56:44:17 - 00:57:11:07
Rod
So like when people say that, I totally. You think you're on disorganized, but I guarantee you're not. I think you have so much ambition and so many ideas such that you're doing, doing, doing, and then you feel like you're unorganized, but you're really not. It just like setting some simple processes and getting the team on board, like the Logans of the world and like a VA and so on.

00:57:11:09 - 00:57:47:13
Rod
And all of a sudden it's like this superpower. It's unbelievable. Delegation is such an amazing superpower because you're enabling somebody to be their best self employing them. And then all of a sudden the team's just winning and they're winning bigly. So we're now only white pilling in the world boy pulling team Marty as well and and you'll be surprised that you change your communication style as well like there's a lot of things that I want to just jump into like I'm done this now for a long time that I used to be notorious for just checking my phone in conversations with people.

00:57:47:13 - 00:58:08:02
Rod
What's going on, you know, here and there. For the most part, I'm not as are I'm definitely not like that anymore. I do it from time to time because I'm that much of an asshole. But next but it's you'll be surprised with yourself. I actually like that. The price point on the service that I use is a little higher and it but I also like it.

00:58:08:02 - 00:58:25:04
Rod
That is month to month. So you can just cancel at any time. But it's one of those things where it's not, it's a mindset. You just got to commit to doing it and then you got to commit to doing it for six months and be like, Look, the pain is this the amount of money I'm paying and I need to get the reward out, so I'm just going to do it.

00:58:25:07 - 00:58:35:13
Rod
And then I've set up so many SOP, standard operating procedures. I've done all these looms to like communicate excellence and do it all. And I'll just give you my whole playbook.

00:58:35:15 - 00:58:37:27
Marty
Yeah, that's one thing I.

00:58:37:29 - 00:58:52:25
Rod
Well, I got a signal group with like some other guys, like four other guys that have signed up and doing it. So like, I'll share all my best practices with them and then we'll jam because that's it helps me get better too. It's like, Oh, I didn't realize you did it that way. That's so much better than the way I was doing it.

00:58:52:25 - 00:58:56:23
Rod
Now I'm going to go implement it in my day to day operations.

00:58:56:25 - 00:59:13:19
Marty
And I think for all the entrepreneurs listening out there, like I think you've alluded to it, but like if you had to put like levels to like what does this unlock for the entrepreneurs teams building out here, like focus on Bitcoin, entrepreneurs building in the space?

00:59:13:24 - 00:59:49:13
Rod
Think about like when you're hiring, I get this may not come off the right way, but I don't like to hire people. Meaning like you should. I like to hire unicorns. Josh Caster Can you edit that last name out? I don't know if he's okay. Like Josh I Bitcoin Park is a unicorn. He can do so much across the park he's a no brainer that we want to work with and work with for a long, long time.

00:59:49:16 - 01:00:24:08
Rod
And I get a different businesses. You got to hire and figure it out and so on and different scales and you got to build sales teams, marketing teams, all this other stuff. But you'd be surprised just starting with a small team and having just one of these virtual assistants to do handle podcasts and coordination, editing those air tools, the scheduling third degree, you can still do it, but like, you know, there's all there's a laundry list of stuff that you can leverage, even personal stuff that you're between you and your wife, that you're like, Oh, man, I know my wife wants me to do this.

01:00:24:08 - 01:00:47:23
Rod
And I just cannot get the energy to do this. And she's going to be really mad because I didn't do this. But you can delegate that for the most part potentially off. And then all of a sudden you have so much leverage in your time on the on the business side. Then on your personal side, you have more leverage that you have like weekly date nights that, you know, you always say, oh, I need to do a weekly date night, I need to do weekly date night.

01:00:47:25 - 01:01:10:01
Rod
Well, now we do do weekly date nights because the babysitters coordinated the the the we have a list of date night activities that we're now organizing. And our the VA's organizing the list, even suggesting new things based on our interests that we weren't even thought of like, oh, that's a great idea. Let's do that on the third date night that we have planned.

01:01:10:07 - 01:01:28:21
Rod
And then it's on our shared calendar and it's like beautifully there and it's all of a sudden these are like energy additive activities that make me at least even be more energized going into work because I'm so excited to go on the date night or I'm so excited to go to this kid's activity because it's all, all there and and streamlined.

01:01:28:27 - 01:01:36:00
Marty
Yeah, get me all bullish. What if I implement this? What could I do?

01:01:36:02 - 01:01:48:15
Rod
It's what do you want when the Marty Bent legacy is over? You know, what do you want when people are like, man, Marty was.

01:01:48:18 - 01:01:59:19
Marty
I think it's going to sound stereotypical and I really don't care about the boys and any future children. Look at me like I'm proud of my dad. Totally. Yeah.

01:01:59:22 - 01:02:27:15
Rod
So if you unroll, I love that. But if you unpack all that, you need to be the time to be present with them, to be super tentative with them. And like this allows you to do that while being ambitious and be like my dad also taught me to be an entrepreneur and a multi preneur and from a media company to like the leading investment fund to a board director, all of these things.

01:02:27:15 - 01:02:36:13
Rod
My dad taught me that like at the end of the day, he taught me that there's no limits on what I can imagine. If I can leverage my time.

01:02:36:16 - 01:02:46:03
Marty
Yeah, the next certainly I hope people get value from the content, said, Hey, help me understand Bitcoin totally push me in the right direction.

01:02:46:06 - 01:02:48:08
Rod
Do I bet you get that all the time?

01:02:48:10 - 01:02:49:26
Marty
It happens from time to time. Yeah.

01:02:49:28 - 01:03:06:16
Rod
Yeah. You know, it's one thing that's kind of weird doing these meetups. You go into like the, you know, your grocery store and so on. And then like again, I'm a nobody, but we host these meet ups in like 200 plus people show up at these meetups typically and the person who's like.

01:03:06:16 - 01:03:09:09

Hey, are you the Bitcoin meetups?

01:03:09:09 - 01:03:12:06
Rod
I'm like, Oh.

01:03:12:08 - 01:03:14:10

I got the wrong.

01:03:14:10 - 01:03:42:20
Rod
Guy. But no, it's, it's fine. Um, yeah, life has tradeoffs, but I think the Bitcoin education side we need that's why when, when the jokes are like, oh, they joke about like we have too many bitcoin podcasts. I actually don't believe that. I think like if you're so passionate about doing it, you should just do a Bitcoin podcast, you should do a Bitcoin one on one should do you think is the best?

01:03:42:20 - 01:03:51:01
Rod
Don't let anyone tell you no and just do it and see what happens. And we'll start with one person, ten people, 100 people. Who knows.

01:03:51:03 - 01:04:00:23
Marty
None. And somebody has been podcasting about Bitcoin for seven years. I welcome it. Iron sharpens iron. Yeah, keep me sharp. The part that podcasts.

01:04:00:26 - 01:04:25:04
Rod
Totally I know it's Yeah and there's just so many ideas and that that's where I do I did kind of start and then stop the builders in bitcoin but this builders in I want to expand it to more uh entrepreneurial focus that's a little bit outside of bitcoin, but has the bitcoin essence involved in it? If that makes sense.

01:04:25:04 - 01:04:45:11
Rod
So it's like telling these entrepreneurial stories, but like telling the really minutia details about like how do you organize your day? Marnie What like when you look back on your how do you look at your bank accounts? Like how do you manage your your money of your business? Why have you adopted and thought about Bitcoin as like the Treasury asset?

01:04:45:11 - 01:05:17:17
Rod
Okay, cool. You have obviously. How do you even think about managing your Bitcoin on your balance sheet? Like, do you think about how do you evaluate investment opportunities as relates to your business when Bitcoin tripping and you're like, I could start a new business, cash flows, but Bitcoin just went from 62 600 and you know, I don't want to sell my bitcoin because it's about to go to 6 million, you know, like these are all and that's why I like these dinners because you have a drink and you have like a nice meal and you can have like deeper conversations and kind of like ideate on, on these topics.

01:05:17:22 - 01:06:07:22
Marty
Yeah. And I think again, going back to the barrier to entry, so low, that's something we focus on at 1031 two is number one like how are you going to accumulate as much bitcoin on your balance sheet and part of doing that is thinking really strategically about your your burn rate, especially your overhead and really forcing the question of how much can you do with how little and trying to really help founders like hone in on that that one aspect of like and that's how I have focused because I that's how I approach it at TFT, it's like how can we expand what we're doing without bringing on as much overhead as possible?

01:06:07:29 - 01:06:35:03
Rod
Totally, because I think my fear is not ruining something because I know that you can go get employment anywhere. I truly believe that like where there's a will, there's a way, but you don't ever want to promise something and then, you know, and not fulfill it in that way. That also scares me. But yeah, I am just mega, mega bullish on the future.

01:06:35:03 - 01:06:41:25
Rod
I'm just so thankful that Bitcoin is like we get to work in Bitcoin every single day. I mean, how gnarly is that?

01:06:41:25 - 01:06:42:15
Marty
It's pretty sick.

01:06:42:20 - 01:06:47:06

It's very sick. We like other we do bitcoin stuff. I mean, like.

01:06:47:08 - 01:07:07:23
Marty
Especially particularly where both of us work at the park and here at the Commons is in energy. Like walking out there. Yeah. Seeing everybody work and feel like it's cejka being able to go out there and talk to the mutant guys, right? Guys. Fetty Kris 360 mining and just like what's happening on the ground? Yeah. Building totally. What's happening out there?

01:07:07:25 - 01:07:39:09
Rod
That's why I like when we talked back in October these in so I'm not a big fan of like the mega conferences I think they're cool just to see how big I guess the industry has gotten you know um, but these smaller, more intimate, highly curated summits, workshops, meet ups and also third spaces like the comments are just so amazing because you never know, you know, when like, you know, Phil Geiger walks over.

01:07:39:09 - 01:07:59:29
Rod
I was like, Oh yeah, that. Phil What's up, buddy? And we caught up and then there's like a handful of other folks that you just naturally run into. So I similar to a meet up, I would say, unless you're super passionate and want to be consistent about doing it, just don't start one without like a core group of people.

01:08:00:01 - 01:08:06:12
Rod
And I can tell you all the things. I mean, like I, I still cannot believe we're going to be celebrating two years like that.

01:08:06:12 - 01:08:09:00
Marty
That's fast. It happens fast. They grow up so fast.

01:08:09:04 - 01:08:10:09
Rod
They grow up so fast.

01:08:10:09 - 01:08:12:16
Marty
This is co-working spaces.

01:08:12:19 - 01:08:22:08
Rod
So what if you had more time? Like, is there another business you would want to start? Or you just want to expand the the CFTC media.

01:08:22:10 - 01:08:51:22
Marty
Just keep doing what we're doing here. Expand like our integration of Bitcoin. So we launched a rewards program. Oh cool. Last week that I'm pretty excited about and I would like to publish that, iterate on it, experiment with the incentivization within the program, but essentially we have been doing a lot of research over the last year, Lois and I, about the state of income and it's pretty broken digital media.

01:08:51:24 - 01:09:23:26
Marty
And as you said, core audience is important. Incentivizing that core audience is important as well. And so we've used Substack and Beehive as analogs, like looking at how they are promising creators on their platforms to grow their audiences and subsectors got the algo and the ability to subscribe to have your newsletter, your substack advertising another Substack and the Beehive is really focusing on that latter use case as well.

01:09:23:29 - 01:09:54:14
Marty
And Beehive allows you to basically advertise your substack on other people's or be your beehive newsletter on other people's pages. And then if you get a subscriber paid subscriber from that, that publication gets like a revenue share on that. And that seems very cannibalistic to me where somebody is reading CFTC. I think there's a lot of great content out there, but I like to think we're putting out content.

01:09:54:14 - 01:10:16:27
Marty
I'd like them to stay consuming our content. And so like idea of putting other newsletters alongside ours and like participating in that model just doesn't make sense to me. It seems very cannibalistic at the end of the day. And so like with that model in mind, be like, how do we not do this model but still grow the subscriber base?

01:10:16:29 - 01:10:42:25
Marty
We've created this TTC rewards system, which is like TTC. MAHTESIAN Specifically, it is extremely humbling to go back and go through the listing and see open rates, and people have been reading for seven years now. And so at this point that have 80 to 95% open rates, like people open it every day, which is again extremely humbling and still amazes me.

01:10:42:28 - 01:10:45:29
Marty
And so there's something there. It's like, Hey, you guys are getting value out of this.

01:10:46:01 - 01:10:47:19
Rod
What other value can we provide?

01:10:47:19 - 01:11:18:07
Marty
Yes. So figuring out a way to grow our community at CFTC, but also incentivize the people that are power users, power readers to participate. So like, obviously, if you're opening this almost every day, you must get value out of it. And so we launched a rewards program leveraging Bitcoin and Master and Ghost basically launched and said, Hey, if you guys are liking this, you're getting value out of this.

01:11:18:07 - 01:11:35:00
Marty
And you have one person in mind. We just started one proof of concept product we want to test out. We have one person in mind. You think we'll get value, others to recommend them to the newsletter and when they join the list, if they read three newsletters, will send you a Seth Reward and the new subscriber. And so that's reward.

01:11:35:03 - 01:11:35:24
Rod
Oh cool.

01:11:35:26 - 01:11:56:17
Marty
And the communication to the refer you the person that got referred is like, Hey, we're putting out this content. Your friend thinks it's valuable. Really trying to highlight signal as it pertains to Bitcoin and other areas that we're interested in. We're looking to develop a relationship with you. If you've read three newsletters, we're going to send you some Bitcoin.

01:11:56:17 - 01:12:11:01
Marty
Our hope is that over the course of you reading three newsletters, you become convinced like, Hey, I want to keep reading this. And then so that's like the first proof of concept and BP channel to Austin now working at Voltage founder of PLEB devs.

01:12:11:04 - 01:12:11:25
Rod
He Oh.

01:12:11:25 - 01:12:30:10
Marty
Cool. He built Bitcoin link. And so basically the way this works is we've created a server that connects the guest API Bitcoin link and then we use Nostro wallet connect to connect to my business. All the account that automatically disperses the rewards as people open three newsletters Login.

01:12:30:10 - 01:12:51:13
Rod
We're going to win bigly buddy. Just that was just a lot of alpha just dropped honestly. Like if you're an entrepreneur out there, I'd be following Marty like none other. And just it's I have this technique called drafting where I get all my really, really smart people and sometimes my really, really rich friends, I'm like, Who's your doctor?

01:12:51:15 - 01:12:53:20

Who Who do you have? Like, What are you doing?

01:12:53:20 - 01:13:31:13
Rod
What tools are you using? And I'm like, I can't. I'd try to do like 80% of what they're doing because I cannot afford 100% of what they're doing or I don't have the time to do 100%. But I'm like, All right. There's like three things I just took away from there that I could apply to my own rather than trying recreate the wheel often, you know, you just leveraging and with your network of other like minded entrepreneurs, and especially when one of the other hacks you need positive people in your life because entrepreneurship is just such a bleak, you know, as I think Elon said, or somebody else, it's like chewing glass and into the

01:13:31:13 - 01:13:48:25
Rod
abyss and like, you know, hoping you're like, right. And but you need good people around you just to say like, like with your son who skinned his knees, your ah come on, get up. You're okay. It's okay. You know, you went from like 200,000 oteh to now $0. You're going to be fine. I'm going to figure this out.

01:13:48:25 - 01:13:58:28
Rod
Come on, you can do this. You know, this month, next month, and the month after that entrepreneurial community support is. Is massive.

01:13:58:29 - 01:14:14:25
Marty
Yeah. So you think that's we're still we test it out and people are using it and it's actually beautiful to see that it works. Yeah. Like what Austin's built for us works and like, it's on autopilot now. I'm like, that's cool. Didn't go into my all be and see these rewards being distributed.

01:14:14:28 - 01:14:50:22
Rod
Yeah I mean I think so I'm not going to challenge you. I'm just saying say like that's a great feature you're doing that now my question is like, all right, you have now more time to think about like TFT C 1031 cookies live in, um, like what's even more you can be doing, like, what is there another whole, you know, is there another whole podcast line that you could, that you're so passionate about starting or is there like, man, you know, I want to level up the production here because I need to research now the next camera and all this other stuff and finally get that shift.

01:14:50:22 - 01:15:06:09
Rod
Because going back to that question you asked me, like what's the advice you would give is like today is tomorrow. So like getting that one extra camera in here and having the time to, like, make it work and then having the time to Logan to be able to do more, that compounds for you. And this is like the best, right?

01:15:06:09 - 01:15:09:12
Rod
So imagine making the best better next school.

01:15:09:14 - 01:15:38:07
Marty
Yeah, I definitely want another camera. We're talking about it. A shot? Yeah, we got the shopping list, going to pull the trigger and then, uh, I think 1031 Like, I think what we've really honed in on in the last year is that Bitcoin and being this open, interoperable protocol puts us in a unique position from the venture perspective where our portfolio companies can really work together.

01:15:38:10 - 01:16:12:12
Marty
And we've seen that, um, separate mutiny, Unchained Mempool strike, mutiny, strike, primal. Like there's these synergies that exist that's so awesome within the portfolio, outside of our portfolio as well as many other companies that aren't in the portfolio that are contributing to this interoperable protocol. And so really leaning into that aspect and trying to surface where these, um, partnerships and synergies exist something or have the potential to exist.

01:16:12:17 - 01:16:49:09
Rod
Totally just even like for an hour a day, like looking at your logo slide, it'd be like, Wow, what if this happened? Or what if that happened? Just freeing your time just to think more. I know it sounds crazy because I'm also in this mindset of just do do do get through my to do list feel good about like checking off list but also just and I'm not I have not done a shit job of this but like I'm trying to read a lot more like deep reading like history and a lot of these other areas that will help me on a number of fronts, but like, I'm just needed time.

01:16:49:10 - 01:17:21:14
Rod
BLOCK And find even more leverage in my day just to do that because like the unlock of like just two partnerships for your portfolio and what I think you guys are in fund three or two or three, and that allows that compounds for you, you know, down the road. And imagine you're like you just had time just to think about one partnership that just 100 next your your fund returned and it's like so simple it could be just one thing and that those both of those companies just like ten their enterprise value.

01:17:21:17 - 01:17:23:12
Rod
Yeah well you need more time.

01:17:23:14 - 01:17:28:14
Marty
Need more time and do need more time. Yeah. And then, uh.

01:17:28:16 - 01:17:29:21
Rod
You know, getting back to.

01:17:29:26 - 01:17:34:01
Marty
Getting back to the roots of this, to focus on the tech and.

01:17:34:03 - 01:17:45:29
Rod
Yeah, man, you killing it? Yeah, I think this was awesome in, like, I don't want to give you enough time so that you can prepare for your next guest. I feel.

01:17:46:01 - 01:18:16:05
Marty
Yeah, well, I mean, thank you. Should be thanking you for helping facilitate that. I'm really excited for the conversation. Yeah. Be good. And like I said, I'm very happy. And you're the lead up to this because you're full of energy positivity, full of weight pills. We're going to win bigly. Create more time for yourself. I think that's the the message of this on this podcast figure out how to create more time.

01:18:16:07 - 01:18:33:02
Rod
And if you don't, someone will take over your time and then you'll look back and like like I have in the last few years and so on and so I'd like, where am I spending my time? This is not giving me energy and this is not the best use of my time. And what are my goals? Goals are health and family.

01:18:33:04 - 01:18:54:13
Rod
What now? I overindex on those on my calendar. And by the way, there's the line of the Munger says, Charlie Munger said, Show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome. And I forget who also said this, but it's like, Show me your calendar and I'll show you. Now it'll show me your priorities. So I you look at your calendar, be like, All right.

01:18:54:13 - 01:19:16:08
Rod
Yep. Podcasting all day. Not like Logan. Go through the checklist and ship the items that we have on our on our list to do, you know, a lot of these other things. And it's and it's pretty remarkable, even like your home screen of your iPhone. If you show me your home screen, I'll tell you what type of person you are, if it's like Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and so on.

01:19:16:10 - 01:19:24:27
Rod
Right. When those and then the not read it, I think it's still read the notification button. Oh, man, do you want me to do this right now? Okay.

01:19:24:29 - 01:19:25:07
Marty
I mean.

01:19:25:09 - 01:19:50:03
Rod
Right. So a lot of the stuff I don't even know, but. Okay, finance. Got that social? Yeah, I move that away. So your business, because you got a lot of business apps on here, which is cool. Um, you're very into communication like, and social media obviously because a lot of the communication apps are at the bottom here you're into Yeah.

01:19:50:03 - 01:20:03:05
Rod
And then the social apps at the top I bet you you nonchalantly go into, you know, social and then just go through that checkbox and then you use Uber quite a bit, probably because it's on your main screen.

01:20:03:05 - 01:20:04:23
Marty
But one car.

01:20:04:25 - 01:20:14:04
Rod
Yeah, that's right. One car. That's right. I forgot about that. But this is tell you a lot about somebody here you want to do me. So it's like I feel bad that you're.

01:20:14:06 - 01:20:22:20
Marty
I mean, I don't know I go past the front here. Yeah yeah. I need this.

01:20:22:23 - 01:20:25:17
Rod
But I don't scroll left or right. I just go to that home.

01:20:25:19 - 01:20:33:23
Marty
This is much, much less chaotic. Do you like notion?

01:20:33:26 - 01:21:00:24
Rod
I'm not actually, I don't. I use it and I use it a lot now because there's a lot of good things and I could probably do more. I don't love it the way I love Aqui Flow. I use read Wise's reader app quite a bit now. Um, I do like Superhuman for email processing, but I don't process that much email, so it's probably not the best investment.

01:21:00:27 - 01:21:11:00
Rod
Um, um, notions just good just to collect and organize. But I'm not some like powered die heart user of notion.

01:21:11:03 - 01:21:14:22
Marty
I feel like you a little depth to set up your notion boards.

01:21:14:24 - 01:21:15:16
Rod
Sometimes but.

01:21:15:16 - 01:21:17:25
Marty
Like mess around with it. It's like this is confusing.

01:21:17:25 - 01:21:59:28
Rod
All you can copy all mine and they're all also like basic. It's not even funny. The cool thing about notion is around the database features. So like for example, and I have not excel or made this like A-plus yet, it's probably like C plus B minus. But I basically have created an intake system of content. So whether I'm on whatever app I can hit share and then put it into reader and then reader, it goes into my inbox on Read Y's Cool and then I time block specific time for like an hour and a half to go through my read wise of things that are found interesting, whether they're tweet threads, long form articles or

01:22:00:01 - 01:22:23:26
Rod
PDFs and then I'll go read through them and then I'll like highlight a couple things in there that I found interesting. Cool. Then I archive it. I'm like, done still is my read wise database. I can search for it, but also goes automagically into my notion database and then it creates a highlights database for me. One thing I want to do in 2025 is actually write longer form content.

01:22:23:29 - 01:22:54:29
Rod
I really want to push myself to think like just writing helps you think and organize your thoughts. And I suck at writing. So that's my like new, new habit for 2025 that I'm going to like, push myself for. But having all this information organized such that I can then go in and I want to write something around. I don't know the word success or business success or whatever, and I can do some searches with a notion database, and it pulls up all of those articles that have highlighted and so on.

01:22:54:29 - 01:23:11:15
Rod
I'm like, Oh yeah, let me take inspiration here, here, here. And it's made my longer form piece of content so much easier to write rather, and be like, Oh, what was that tweet thread from? Like, I know I saw it, I did, I bookmark it on Twitter that I saved and read was where it's all in like its central repository.

01:23:11:21 - 01:23:20:06
Rod
But again, I'm not like some super fan of notion. Um yet. Maybe I will be in like six months after I've like fully implemented all this stuff.

01:23:20:06 - 01:23:25:22
Marty
Yeah, got it. Better processes, but got to start somewhere.

01:23:25:25 - 01:23:30:15
Rod
There's zero day zero start today. Yeah. You.

01:23:30:18 - 01:23:31:23
Marty
It's always a pleasure, sir.

01:23:31:25 - 01:23:33:07
Rod
This is the past. Thank you, Marty.

01:23:33:09 - 01:23:36:09
Marty
I'm going to have a fun day. We're having fun. Afternoon. Yeah, It's good to have you in. Awesome.

01:23:36:10 - 01:23:37:11
Rod
Hi, Kevin.

01:23:37:14 - 01:23:38:06
Marty
Peace, love, freaks.