Rod Roudi explores how Bitcoin, AI, and energy are driving a new era of innovation, personal sovereignty, and purposeful living.
In this episode, Rod Roudi and Marty Bent explore the convergence of Bitcoin, AI, and energy as transformative forces reshaping innovation, productivity, and sovereignty. They highlight how AI remains underutilized, with only a fraction of people leveraging its full potential—especially in prompt engineering, which Rod argues will become a critical skill. The conversation touches on the rise of Austin and Nashville as cultural hubs where Bitcoin and AI communities intersect, with places like Bitcoin Park serving as collaborative ecosystems. They discuss how AI can revolutionize education by enabling personalized, Montessori-style learning, and how it empowers individuals—especially solo entrepreneurs and parents—to scale their impact without sacrificing presence at home. Ultimately, they view the convergence of Bitcoin (as incorruptible money), AI (as leverage), and energy (as freedom) as the foundation of a new societal architecture.
This episode serves as a clear signal that the convergence of Bitcoin, AI, and energy is already unfolding, with cities like Austin and Nashville at the forefront of building a freer, more efficient future. Rod Roudi and Marty Bent emphasize that while these technologies are powerful, their real impact comes when rooted in purpose—whether it's raising a family or launching a business with AI-enhanced leverage. As we approach a major societal shift, those who embrace this transformation with intention and long-term vision will help define the world ahead.
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Sports dads who vibe code
11:08 - Fold & Bitkey
12:44 - Austin convergence and meetups
20:27 - Unchained
20:55 - AI careers
25:58 - Leveling up children’s creativity
33:00 - Triple convergence
39:09 - Playing with AI tools
48:03 - How TFTC uses AI
53:08 - Bitcoin is the safest place
55:51 - Austin convergence again
1:03:38 - Texas Energy & Mining Summit
(00:00) Elon should just buy Apple or they Apple should just buy Tesla and put Elon as CEO. The fact that they lost on this AI race. Do you think they had like a 10ear head start with Siri? They need to like acquire Grock and Elon and so on just to be shot in there. Honestly, if you're not using AI yet, you're doing massive disservice to yourself.
(00:20) Being able to speak to the AI like prompt engineering is going to be the number one requested skill. All those liberal arts degrees may actually pay off. Remember when you said pom pom uh bang bang? Remember back in the day? Bang bang. I've lost a lot of those. I don't drink as much on the podcast. I don't say bang bang anymore.
(00:49) I don't start every episode with sub freaks. Really? Yeah. Well, you're killing it. Uh and the old school Marty was killing it. New School Marty is killing it even more. Um, I remember way back in the day it was bang bang was your line. That's when we did the clap reminded me of that. Bang bang. We would uh that was a college hang on.
(01:13) It was one of the things my college groups would say like bang bang. And then uh became a tick on the podcast. But yeah, now we got kids. And uh by the way, funny enough, so do uh you're both your boys. Do you coach any of their teams? Are they playing any sports right now or no? The oldest playing T-ball. Okay.
(01:32) I got a good T-ball stuff. I do not coach, but I I'm a very big sport. I go to practice. Okay, good. And should practice tomorrow night. Yeah. So, uh, I pushed myself and I forget if we did this on the last episode or we talked about this, but, um, I raised my hand or I'm raising my hand and have raised my hand for every single of my kids sporting activities to either coach, assistant coach, or be the lead volunteer.
(01:59) Uh, and now I'm coaching one T-ball team, two soccer teams, and I just finished up like being the lead parent on the girls basketball team. Anyways, I say all that. It's like it's a forcing function to just show up because if you're the coach, you have to show up. But if you're like just the parent like, "Oh, I can just drop them off or I won't be there at all the practices.
(02:18) " Anyways, right before we recorded, I got this email to all the parents. I uh from the league officials of our T-ball team. I mean, and I think our boys are the same age. Uh mine's four, this one's four years old. He's like, "I'm so disappointing in the parents behavior. You guys are like, you know, X, Y, and Z." And I'm just like dying.
(02:38) wrote this like nine paragraph email. What are you guys tailgating at the uh T-ball games? So, I think it's I don't think it's the T because it goes T-ball all the way up to like sixth grade little league. So, I think it's probably the older kids and the older parents and so I'm making them a little bit more competitive.
(02:51) I mean, if I can get these kids just to hit the ball, it's a win, right? So, anyways, it just shows we've we've progressed to the point of the season where a pure out is a big win. Okay. Or if you field a ground ball and throw it to first before the runner gets there, that's that's a win. That's more that's more impactful than scoring a run because everybody scores a run in T-ball.
(03:11) Oh, we don't even count scores or Yeah, there's no scores being counted, but like everybody you hit, you get on base. Like even if you get thrown out, you stay on base. Everybody runs around. So the uh the side stat that the dads are watching is is a pure pure outplay. I respect um and some of these kids can freaking smack the ball.
(03:33) I'm like, hey, uh that's another thing especially in my brain. It's like we were just talking about AI stuff. I delete pretty much everything that doesn't need to be stored in memory. Uh because I just depend on any of these AI stuff just to like query the information and get it near-term to me. But kids names I'm like storing it in deep memory so I can rattle off like from Hunter Hill like all the kids names.
(03:57) But these kids can freaking hit the ball. They can. And on that point, I was actually after church yesterday after Easter mass. We were walking around and we we go to mass the same uh the church my kids go to school at. And I'm bad with names like this job like having conversations 600 plus episodes. Nice. Meeting company founders, investors, like so many names.
(04:23) And I'm like I made a point after mass yesterday when I couldn't remember somebody's name. I was like, I actually want to use AI to like get like a picture of the kids class, ideally their parents too, and just like do like a memory game once a week of Yep. face the name associated. So, if we can just brainstorm on this because I love this stuff creating it's all about the systems, right? So the the output or a gameification is that quiz game or card game which I completely agree with the I have not cracked the code on a great personal CRM. So for example,
(04:58) yeah, exactly. My t my son's T-ball team, the parents, the names, there's now 17 names there. My daughter's soccer team, it's 18 girls for 5v5, by the way, which is hilarious. Uh, and then my other son's soccer team, I think, is like 13 boys and boys and girls. And there's a way through an AI agent, I'm pretty sure, and I I'm not I'm very very sure, where you can have an interface with like like WhatsApp or whatever.
(05:29) Then it can go into an air table, right, that you create. Then you can just query that uh air table and you can actually take pictures and be like, "Hey, discern these people's pictures, put them into a table with their names and so on. Here's the the the names and then you can get that information pretty much seamlessly done inputwise and then output you pretty much can extract that that name or information on in real time as as quickly as possible.
(05:53) Yeah, Apple made that was like the Apple AI commercials the dude Apple [ __ ] the bed so bad. It's unbelievable. It was like an you can make you can make the Do you Are you uh the commercial? Are you familiar with it? So, it was the uh the girl from the show on HBO, the zombie show or whatever. She was the lead actress in the commercial.
(06:15) Uh and she's basically like, "Siri, I met this guy two weeks ago at this place. What's his name?" Then Siri like automatically populates. Oh, that's Joe. Absolutely not. Siri does not Siri cannot even get like the weather local. I'm flying to Austin this morning. I'm like, "What's the weather in Austin?" And it's just like could not even get that information back to me. No, it's freaking so.
(06:36) But you can you can build these systems yourselves. Totally. We're vibe coding at Bitcoin Park Austin. We are vibe coding. Are they vibe vibe coding as hard in in Nashville as we are here? I think they are as well. I think both places especially um I'll say this now with Bitcoin Park Austin, the density of developers, engineers, and entrepreneurs here in Austin, Texas is unbelievable.
(06:58) Straight up. um February one when we you know started this project and converting from Commons to Bitcoin Park Austin. I was so impressed and astonished by how many Bitcoiners there are just like in this Austin area. Um, it's like you have a full deck of cards here. We're like in Nashville and Nashville now we do have a prominent scene and like it's awesome.
(07:25) But when we started there was just like nobody really there that was a Bitcoiner. Then Matt came and then a couple other people came. Then all of a sudden it started like growing and growing. But here you guys got a full deck and it's been awesome. Yeah. I feel extremely fortunate and lucky like you just saw like little interactions I have with Tony like kind of vibe coding like is this the right prompt and he's like fix this like it's a cheat code for me personally it exactly and and so where I see Bitcoin Park Austin Nashville so we
(07:59) have the physical places which are unbelievable just to have that spontaneous collisions right of Tony's here Markx is here and you're working on something and honestly like I think you're serious about the this opportunity cost idea. I hope I'm not uh we won't get too far into you can you can tease the name but uh I think it's a brilliant idea and I think I think more and more of these uh and not to go on a complete tangent but like as as people are debating especially coming out of high school what to do with their
(08:30) lives. I hope a lot of people think and are able to create some simple small businesses, right, that can scale pretty quickly and they get money in their pocket to the point where they're like, "What the opportunity cost of me going and paying all this money to go to college versus me just concentrating on building this out? Let me spend my gap here and just build a business.
(08:52) " And hopefully that compounds and continues to go and go and go, which would be freaking awesome. Yeah, we just had an example of the guy who created the uh the macro tracking app, cal.ai, AI I think it's called. Okay. He blew up on X a couple weeks ago because he was uh he basically got uh rejected from all the top Oh, I saw that thread.
(09:12) All the top universities like bro you created one of the most popular apps of the last year. Like you do not need to go to college. What's the um what's that test where it's like you see the same thing but you interpret it differently. It's like a it's not a roshack twist. Yeah. Ro Yeah. Roshack.
(09:32) So, I read that tweet and I read it as like badass, you know, like, oh man, this is so awesome. You know, you found it even though you got rejected, you took that as a chip on your shoulder and you just started something and did it. And then the other people were like some people were saying just like negating higher education for some reason or something along those lines.
(09:53) But yeah, I didn't really follow that. I I I don't think the university as it stands today is going to exist in the same state when our kids are in college. I I don't think that's a bad thing either. I think it's not. It's very uncomfortable for people right now is universities are getting a lot of warranted blowback due to DEI policies, um admissions policies, and more recently the the endowment story.
(10:17) Competition is a beautiful thing. that one high school student competing, deciding whether he he or she should go to college or start a business or UATX. Unbelievable stuff that is right across the street from here. I've been spending a lot of time there last few weeks. It's really impressive what they're doing.
(10:34) So freaking lucky. So freaking lucky you guys have that here. I mean, Joe Lonzale, I believe, is the one of the founders of that place with what Anthony Rosario and and uh those folks just they did the Satoshi Papers. Were I don't know if you were here for that. I was there for the morning uh last Wednesday. Yeah, that was so well attended.
(10:52) Like they're just they it seems like they get it from a university standpoint and they're also leaning into the Bitcoin area. U which makes a ton of sense. Yeah. Yeah. If your endomment doesn't have Bitcoin in it, you may want to think about it. Yeah. May want to think about it. Listen, Freaks, I know you're tired of me talking about Fold, but I'm going to beat the drum.
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(12:45) world code TFTC20. Specifically over the last month, Peter Teal had a lecture series there. It was a four-part lecture series. I was able to make the first part and the third part. So, I went both Wednesday nights and it was just really, it was just open. You can go to Peter Thiel's uh it was invite. I got I got put on a list and uh invited uh it was it was really interesting.
(13:06) I talked to a lot of students there. incredibly engaging. Like I'm very excited for them. But beyond that, like obviously the the Satoshi Paper Symposium that they had last Wednesday, but I think what finally clicked for me is just the concentration, which you alluded to, of talent in this city. It's it's and not only the concentration of talent but the concentration of individuals open to exploring new things whether it's Bitcoin uh university models whatever it may be.
(13:39) So not only like the the density of talent between developers, engineers and entrepreneurs in Austin. What's really nice is like across all Texas as well. So, I don't know how many people I've met now from Dallas, Houston, West Texas, Round Rock, like all of these different pockets and they're developing their own like little Bitcoin ecosystems in those areas as well, which is just, you know, Nashville pretty much have Nashville.
(14:04) There's not really a big Memphis scene. There's some scene in Chattanooga, but not to the level that we have in Nashville. But it feels like in Texas at least there's a bunch of amazing pockets that are happening. Like Mario, really love that guy from Giga. He's crushing it in Houston and doing that scene over there.
(14:22) There's a number of folks in Dallas. Um the guy that runs the Round Rock Meetup, Jason. He's killing it. He was just at we were hosted Grouse Roots Bitcoin at uh Bitcoin Park Nashville uh two weeks ago. It was you were missed. Um, we had about 50 plus meetup organizers from all over the US and we just jammed for for a good day. It was good. Yeah.
(14:46) And it's Bitcoin touches everything. It's beginning to expand. That was it was cool to see. Speaking of Tony, like him and Justin spinning up the AI meet up, Socratic Socratic uh style AI meetup here. They did it like I walked over. I was like, "What are you guys doing tonight?" They were like, "Oh, we're actually throwing an AI meet up here.
(15:02) " I was like, "Thanks for letting me know." And they were like, "Oh, we just announced like an hour ago." Yeah. So, this is and I I hope this doesn't sound like I'm shilling Bitcoin Park, but this is one of the coolest reasons to start a a physical third space is like Justin and Anthony had just messed in our group chat like, "Hey, is it cool with like a little less than 48 hours notice like is it cool after the Satoshi papers we run a AI uh AI Austin meetup?" I'm like down. No problem.
(15:33) just uh we have a 1-hour buffer between th those people flipping out, you guys flipping in. They said it went great and now it looks like they're not only going to do a Socratic uh once a month, they're going to also do a demo and workshop once a month. So, they're going to have two high quality AI focused meetups. And it reminds me of the days when uh Steve Meyers at in Nashville uh finally because I really wanted a bit devs there and he was like, "Hey, I'll run bit devs here. We'll call it Nash bit devs.
(16:03) I'm like absolutely here are the keys. Here's our meetup page. Have at it. What are the resources you need? Let's let's go and make it happen. And it's super low lift, but the key is you need the leader of that area. You or I can't just continue to lead all of them or we it I would be um a fake.
(16:24) I don't know what the right word is, but like a um it wouldn't have the same a lar as the kids are calling it. I'm a lar in a lot of things, but like that would be a major LAR. Um, and uh, yeah, it just it wouldn't have the same Janice Qua. So, like for those two guys, especially Justin to get that energy back in the room who had started he was I don't think he started Bit Devs, but it was one of the main leaders early on of Austin Bit Devs.
(16:51) No, he started it. He start He did the first one at the library. Oh, sick. Then Yeah, exactly. And so taking that energy and that goes again to the depth of the talent that is here. So where I see or can see like a Bitcoin park Austin or Bitcoin Park Nashville or just in general is the convergence between all of these amazing innovations.
(17:15) So you see Bitcoin, AI, energy, those are the going to be the three areas of focus um as it relates to Bitcoin park. I could see over the next five years and going to spend and this is all the like areas like I really care about like we got the Texas energy mining summit coming up uh May 6th and 7th.
(17:35) Like the energy focus is going to be insane there. Uh but there's a little touch of AI AIHBC there. Obviously Bitcoin is a big component of it. Um, but you're going to see that seep out to all these other areas within Bitcoin as well. Payments, you know, global and grassroots Bitcoin adoption, you know, AI and Bitcoin. It just it what a freaking time to be alive for us. Yeah.
(17:59) No, it it does feel like they're converging AI and Bitcoin specifically, whether it's on the energy side or I think more and more on the technical. That's why I'm very excited that Anthony and Justin are starting this meet up because I like I was saying like I'm showing Anthony like I'm vibe coding like I need help. I need this reassurance too and the meetup and just thinking back to my early days of going to bit devs in New York City, the first one I went to like an incredible immense amount of imposttor syndrome and just went stomach it and had no idea about
(18:32) 90% of the conversation but kept going year after year. learn a new tool, you learn something new from this person, and then all of a sudden you're like, you're taking those two things and applying it to the uh your uh newsletter. Well, it was like that. So, that was January 2015 was my first bit devs. I went consistently for two years.
(18:51) And by doing that for 2 years, I think that was part of the reason I was confident enough to start the newsletter is cuz I feel like I've gone to enough and talked with enough of these developers to have a enough of an understanding of Bitcoin to confidently write about it and try to educate others about it.
(19:11) And if that meetup didn't exist in New York and knows if this media company even exists. Yeah, that that was literally what I was just about to think say. Imagine if that meetup didn't exist, right? And then conversely, imagine all the meetups that are existing and and all of the products and services and and businesses that are coming out of those just because it started at a meetup, you know, like two guys getting together or one person saying, "Hey, you know what? I want to write about this.
(19:36) " That's where I think especially with the AI tooling going there's no excuse from going zero to one now. you should be like now the next excuse is like do you have the consistency and discipline and grit to go from one to 100 or one 100 to a thousand right and so I think guys like you are in the best position possible because you've built not only an amazing uh distribution engine but you've built a a trusted brand in the place so the next product or service that you offer already has 90% of the way there and now you don't need to go out
(20:11) and go hire five people to develop an app or 10 people to design a website or you know 20 people to do sales for you. You just need one idea that can kind of tie into your audience that is incremental value ad and it's game on. It's unbelievable. Our good friends Parker Lewis and Drew Bonsol are two of the deepest thinkers in Bitcoin.
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(20:49) Understand why Bitcoin works and why nothing else does. Watch the premiere at unchained.com/TFTC. That's unchained.com/tc. And many people are dooming about it. Uh what would be the doomer comment? Well, it's like they're going to take all all the jobs, which is good. All the jobs are going to go away. Those are jobs that we need probably need to go away.
(21:09) And then h I would bet on human ingenuity. 10 out of 10 every day, twice on Sunday, I bet on human ingenuity. When your back is up against the wall or if you're given the opportunity and the resources and the tooling, you will create something better and you'll create jobs for 10, 20, 30, 100 people. I guarantee it.
(21:29) And I was also I forget if we talked about this on the last podcast, but I was thinking a lot like if I was in high school right now, you know the one job I would do? I would be a Door Dash delivery guy. You know why? Why? Because all you got to do is just get dinged on your phone, go pick up the food, and drop it off.
(21:50) You don't even have to have any interaction with the person. Right. With Uber, you have to like potentially talk to somebody. You can't be on the phone talking to somebody because it's inapprop like rude. You know, you got somebody in the back. People do it anyway. Yeah. But but you could listen to a podcast full blast. Mhm.
(22:07) You could you could vibe code voice to text while Door Dash delivering, you know, and making money on the side in high school. So, I was just thinking about it. I'm like, that's probably the the best job if you needed a job to do right now before the robots come. That's like the short term, short to medium term.
(22:24) Probably the be one of the best jobs I was doing before this. That's what Logan was doing before this, you know. There you go. May want to keep it on the side just in case, but you know. No, Logan, you're you're you have some job security. the uh No, it's it's honestly if you're not using AI yet, you're doing a massive disservice to yourself.
(22:45) And I I think that's one thing that I really realized over the last couple of months is that it is still very niche. Like if you're not on X, if you're not aware of anything, like people aren't using it. And like in my like last night we did an Easter uh tenderloin roast and my dad had this way of cooking the tenderloin and I I couldn't remember the exact details but I like went into 03 and was like hey cooking this tenderloin it's three and a half pounds.
(23:18) Uh my dad had this way of doing it where you like jack up the oven to 500 and then you'd lower it to 225. like how how like are you aware of this type of cooking and like and he was like yes this is the uh it's called like toast and coast method and you do it for 25 minutes of or 15 minutes of 500 and then put on 225 for 45 minutes and it was funny cuz my wife at the same time in parallel was trying to find it just through typical Google search and she was complaining in the kitchen like I don't want to read seven paragraphs and you trying to sell me some having to
(23:51) click all these ads like just tell me how to do it and she couldn't find it and like I found it in literally 30 seconds and just gave me the answer. I had to go through any paragraphs of some cooking blog or whatever is it. So, here's where my not my doom or take, but my all those liberal arts degrees may actually pay off for being able to they're going to be able to go in and be like being able to speak to the AI is going like prompt engineering is going to be the number one requested uh skill like if I'm hiring somebody for them to
(24:27) be able to speak like right now I don't even I know to a degree the differences in models but I don't know it to the best of like oh I need to do that for with 3 versus llama versus deepseek versus whatever. I'm not there yet. I'm just like one model or whatever. Uh Gro's quick easy. Let me just go ask it the question.
(24:45) But the fine-tuning and then the temperature control and all of the different prompts and like I think with 03 it's got memory so that now when it's like hey what's my uh recipes my father's recipe uh for this you can do a shorter prompt right and then it'll recite it back. Yeah. Like, when did I ask you about this? Oh, yeah.
(25:06) For Easter of like, you know, 2024 is when you ask me about this and blah blah blah. So, it's like, man, so like one of the things I do with my daughter, like driving her to school is I do the voice to um voice interaction with the AI still. And it's just like cuz I want to train her to do the prompts cuz that's it's the whatever is happening in the world, especially on the education to bring it all the way full circle, it has to change.
(25:33) It's like uh we go to a Catholic school and I'm actually meeting with the this is how crazy I am. The old girls principal of where my daughter will go to school. I'm having a meeting with her just to discuss the not the curriculum or the programming. It's just like the process. And I just wanted to be as open as possible for them to learn these tools as much as quickly as possible.
(25:54) Like we shouldn't be like, "Oh, you can't use the AI to do this." It's like no like let's level up everything. You know what it levels up specifically is the Monasuri model because the Monasuri model is all about like let individual children explore what they're what they're interested in sort of um cater to that that natural inclination towards one subject or another that they have.
(26:17) is limited in the sense that like you have only x amount of teachers in the room to be able to nurture that individual sort of interest that each child has. Now with AI tools, you can just literally give them the software to accelerate that that sort of interest that they have. Totally. Yeah. It's man, I just I that's why I'm going to just continue to be nice to my kids, continue to be present because they're going to be smarter than me by the age of 10. They're going to be running.
(26:49) That's why I also want to stay up up to speed on all these tools as much as possible because they're going to be running around I us on all this stuff. Like our oldest, he just turned five and like this is the year where I'm like, "All right, it's time to leaning lean." We tried the um I tried to do like reading in 100 lessons last summer.
(27:09) His attention span just wasn't there. But like in the last two weeks, he's been writing a lot more and reading. And I'm like, "Oh, you know how to read now. Like I need to like" And so now I'm like, "All right, now is probably like a better opportunity to step in and be like, "All right, let's let's actually learn how to read properly and help accelerate.
(27:27) " You see that? That right there. I think kids are just born geniuses. All kids. There's not like, oh, this kid's really talented and this kid's not. All kids are geniuses in general. I I fundamentally believe that. And I believe that just being consistently there and supportive, they will it all of a sudden clicks. Whether it's your son reading and then you're like, "Whoa, you just learn how to read.
(27:49) He's writing or now he's writing writing words." Yesterday he came up to me. He's like, "Daddy, look. Attic." And he wrote it. I was like, "Attic?" Yeah. I was like, "What? Attic." Under your head, Logan, how do you spell it? I can't spell anything. I'm just messing with you. Um, but yeah, 100%. And like you're going back to this basketball story.
(28:10) I have I'll I'll share this video with you when we're done here, but like these girls are in kindergarten. I mean, they could barely like chew bubble gum, right? And by the end of the season, my daughter had stolen the basketball one time, dribbled it all the way to the other end. I mean, brick the layup, but whatever. It was like one of the most proudest moments I've ever had in my life just to experience that.
(28:36) And so I think creating these environments and creating the tools around them to have them just adapt and let their creativity and ingenuity flourish um will just be so rad. I see. It's exciting to no dooming, no black pilling. All right. It's it's chaotic. It's unnerving but it's ultimately beneficial I So, Peter Till, who I think very highly of, I think he says it well, like you shouldn't ever be all the way on the doomer side and you shouldn't be like super super optimistic as well, cuz both are in the same pair, like you're going to lose on both ends.
(29:10) So I'm like center right in terms of the optimism side here because for brains like mine that are more process driven a little bit less but like now I have all the tooling to actually get out my thoughts and ideas in a systematic way. I not I I look at the glass half full like for the next 50 I'm going to live oh knock on wood to 160.
(29:35) So in the next like 120 plus years we're going to be rocking rocking. I like that. I like that optimism. The uh heck yeah, man. We So like you're going to you're going to live to see your great great great grandkids. This is going to be this is what we should all strive for. So I forget if I again sorry if I'm repeating myself, but uh 160 is a number because I'm a little north of 40 years old.
(29:57) So my first quarter of my life is over. I got four young kids, 64, three, and two. And I want to this next 40 to 80 is build some quality businesses. But most importantly, like what's more scarce than Bitcoin? Time. Okay. What's more scarce than time? Time with our kids. Cuz no matter what, there's a shelf life there.
(30:20) And Matt, right? Right now, not to sc freak you out, but with your son, the 5-year-old, you have probably 12 more years with them in the house. 12 years, dude. 12 years goes like that. I know. You've been Bitcoin 12 years or something like that. Yeah. You know, or 10 years now. And so it's like oh man that's why the forcing function of like coaching all the kids like unless it's the rarest of rare occasions like always primary blocks of all the kids plays all of them just to attend because a lot of these parents like you look at them they
(30:51) look successful on paper like hey I made $100 million blah blah but I'd give up all of it just so I could go see my kid in the Christmas play. It's like what? Yeah. Yeah. like, "Okay, I'm gonna go see my kid in the Christmas play and I'll make like 1/100th of that and that makes that's a winning trade for me.
(31:08) " Um, it totally is. Now you're like, "No, I'm mental note like I better make it to practice. I've missed one practice this season." And and by the way, it's not the jud like and let me back up because it's like it easily can come off as like, oh, it's a rep prioritization, a realization because I'm a little older and I and I have young kids and looking up to a lot of successful people and then asking them what do you have any regrets or what are those other things and it always comes back to their kids and it always comes back to spending
(31:36) time with them. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I want to be in the regret minimization business. How do I minimize as much of my regrets? Well, if I elongate my time period out so that like that 80 to 120 or like 60 to 120 period is like when I'm like really accelerating in the business because 90% of my live-in time with my kids is over by the time they're like 17 18 years old.
(32:03) So, the time to build like multi- big businesses will be later in life. Right now, it's kid prioritization. Yeah, we've got another one on the way, too. Let's That's It's uh That's amazing, man. Congrats. I'm trying to catch up. Yeah. So, your boys are five and three, too. Almost three. Yeah. Three. Yeah. And you see you you spaced them out perfectly because the oldest will be sweet to the to the newborn and uh they'll both be sweet, don't get me wrong, but like the middle one will have a little bit of like, wait, what's going on here?
(32:40) Um, but dude, it is now you're in like not man-to-man defense is over. It's over. Although you're going to be around a lot of family, so that's that's massive. Yeah, it'll be fun. It's exciting. That's uh we'll see if we can get catch up to you. I hope we can. But, uh, no, it's just great. And it's it's fun especially like and it is sort of a it is sort of unnerving having children now while like it it has become more and more obvious by the day that we're at this crazy inflection point in human history.
(33:13) We have Bitcoin coming coming to market and it's going to become the global reserve currency. You have AI which is creating this insane sort of acceleration of human capacity by leveraging technology. Like I thought the internet uh like being a 90s baby and living in both the analog world where I remember when Colar ID was first launched and thinking that was revolutionary to AOL then eventually everything.
(33:43) Do you remember Star 69? Yeah. Yeah. Logan definitely does not. But Star Do you know what Star 69 is, Logan? Oh my god. He's probably like it's some like pornographic thing, but no. Star 69 was to uh recite the last person that called you. Yeah. So like someone would call you and you didn't have caller ID, you missed the call, you would hit star 69, it would give you the number that just called you and so you'd know what call you missed.
(34:05) But like that was the technology. Back in the day, you'd be like, "Damn, girl that called me, please." And then just like the kids will never know what star 69 was. Nope. They will not know what star 69 was. Yeah, that was so cool. But like again like that like from star 69 to color ID to the internet.
(34:21) Like I thought that was like this AI stuff is just on a whole another level. So if I can soft leak something and you already know this but um we're going to do this in Nashville uh Imagine if September 19th or the 20th it's happening it's going to be the convergence between Bitcoin AI and energy um and uh hopefully you're there because we're going to have an awesome side stage for you guys that's going to be like just massive we're going to have 21 speakers because I this convergence and collision between those three areas I want to bring some of the
(34:54) best minds in the world and have them deliver like a base TED talk on how those areas can impact, you know, humanity. And um it'll be at the Fischer Center for Performing Arts. It's this like beautiful theater. And I feel like we need to have people showcase what the world can be because I want to imagine like for my daughter in 12 years, what does it look like when she's going to college? just I I hope and I know it won't be the same as it is today.
(35:26) So, what is that? You know, one thing I always think about is like our phones right now. I don't have my phone on me or uh it's over there, but um what if all these phones just go away? I mean, I'm not all about putting I'm not saying we're getting chipped, but what if there's some other thing or form factor we're not even just thinking about? That's why I go always go back to voice.
(35:49) Voice is so much more efficient than type. So, you know, we're always looking down at the screens and then typing for the most part some voice with the AirPods and so on. And this is where like complete tangent, but like Tim Cook, great guy, sure, whatever. Elon should just buy Apple or they Apple should just buy Tesla and put Elon as CEO because that whole place needs just like radical like overhaul for innovation.
(36:16) the fact that they lost on this uh AI uh race and it's over because there's no catching up on unless they acquire they need to like acquire Grock and Elon and so on just to be shot in there and um uh to take over but uh it's a complete tangent on that on that end. It's like to think they had like a 10ear head start with Siri.
(36:38) Like they should have like dude, how do you with Siri bothers me to no end because everything I do or not everything majority of I do now is voice to text. Um and it's so bad. It is so bad. Like now I use these apps like Super Whisper and these other intermediaries to do the the voice dictation stuff rather than going native to what Apple should be best at is is that yeah the only thing I use Siri for is setting timers Siri 20 minute timer please. Yeah, exactly.
(37:13) What's really interesting is like the manners, you know, like I was just on a call with Rob Warren who's been crushing it at the at the park on the research and education side and we were doing some prompts and some other things and he was like, "Please do this, please do that." It's actually good.
(37:31) Like we should be kind to the AIs. I always think about that. I always say please and thank you in real life and to the AI. Yeah. Yeah. cuz you never good good manners are just a good thing to live by, you know. I agree. I I couldn't agree more. And that's where Yeah, I I'm so bullish on the future. Well, I I am too. But going back to what I said earlier, like it is astonishing to me having conversations with other people.
(37:58) Like I ran into a friend from the boy's school. He live he works downtown, too. and we ran into each other on the street and I was saying like we need to catch up and get drinks and I did the and he's like private equity like in high finance like very successful and like he was like I I was like I don't have your cell phone number pulled out our both had iPhones pulled it out and I did like did the bump exchange he was like astonished he was like what you can do this and he was like yeah just need my tech friend to
(38:25) show me I was like that was like one indicator and then other is like just like talking to people about how I'm leveraging AI and they're like oh like how How do I how do I do this? Like it seems pretty complex. Like you literally just download an app and start. Point being there's still a very small circle or bubble of people leveraging this stuff globally.
(38:48) Um and I think it's important particularly if you understand the gravity of this inflection point and this phase change in productivity that's coming that you get people together to explain this to them. Whether it's the event in Nashville in September or what we're doing here in a couple weeks. Yeah.
(39:06) With the Texas Energy and Mining Summit, like we need again these physical spaces of this idea exchange for people to become aware of this. Totally. And then showcasing like that's why I love Bitcoin so much cuz it's all about proof of work and like showcasing the real world application of it all. And like it's going to be phenomenal. And I do I do think this is like that golden period where we're still so early, but the tooling is good enough that you can build like a quick business and all of a sudden get like 1K MR, 10K MR or like a a guy like you is probably
(39:41) going to crack the nut and be like, did I just build a better business than what I built for the last 10 years with TFTC in one? It's like a joke where it's like one vibe coding session and I built like a 10x FTFDC uh media company, but there's a nonzero chance that that's going to happen.
(40:02) And that's the thing is like taking a lot of reps and taking a lot of uh uh pulls at this. So like on the AI side, a like if you have a 100 people are going to download whatever operator or whatever tool, they're going to put some prompts in and then it's not going to work. And then all of a sudden 70 of those people was like, "Ah, AI doesn't work right now.
(40:21) " And they're going to go away. The third year will stay and they'll go for the second time and be like, "Oh, you know, blah blah blah. It didn't really work here." And another 50% will just like roll off. Then the 15 will stay. And it'll probably like whittle down to like three or five that stick with it and then continue to test and test and build and they're going to be the ones that are just like crushing it.
(40:41) Absolutely crushing it. Yeah. And it's it's only getting better, too. like by the week at this point, dude. It especially on sand. Jasinto day. Is that how you pronounce it? Jinto. Um Justinto day. Justinto day. Texas independence from Mexico. Congrats. Yeah. Thank you. Um the the tooling for true individual independence and uh sovereignty.
(41:11) Um yeah, there's no better day than today. No, that's for sure. To start to start. No, that's like and going back to the kids conversation too. We had uh we had my wife's sister uh my brother-in-law and their kids in town last week. They were on spring break and they came to stay with us, the Bills fans.
(41:29) And um I was showing them I I leopied the kids and they were mind blown by like we did Tuesday night. We were just hanging out in the the back porch. was get together kids, took a picture of them, turned them into Legos, and they were like nuts. Like literally every third question for my for my oldest uh over the last week is like turn that into a Lego and like but like that is an example of like they see like that is their star 69 is like, "Oh, I can liy anything I want.
(41:59) " See, that's where I what I haven't done this yet, but I'm thinking through it is like getting an old iPad and then deleting all the apps and only figure out a way just to make it only voice and then having one of the models there so that they can just practice and play around with it. Yeah. And you can give it a master prompt like you're interacting with a 5-year-old.
(42:18) That's a really good point. Do not talk about anything that I wouldn't be comfortable having my 5-year-old talk about. And here are my values. Blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, that's actually a really good idea to do. Um, I know that that that prompt master prompt and fine-tuning is another level of uh of stuff.
(42:38) And then that's the other thing on the Bitcoin side where I don't think and I have not cracked this code, but was it you or maybe Tony or Anthony that told me this like you there should be a game where you get one operator and be like, "Hey, you have, you know, 10,000 SATs. Your goal is to now make this into a Bitcoin. Do don't kill anyone.
(42:59) Do it very legally based on the US laws ethically based on this ethic code of ethics and go and make this into one bitcoin. And then it's like, you know, like task rabbits this and whatever that, you know, cuz remember that red uh pin or the uh the paper clip red paper clip. The paper clip trade. How can I turn a paperclipip into a million dollars? And didn't he do it? It turned into a million dollars. Yeah.
(43:24) So, like doing the red paper clip idea and empowering an AI agent to do the red paperclip would be really freaking cool. And that's like an idea that probably will only work in the early days. Like once you do it once, like it gets arbitrageed out. Totally. Totally. Someone There you go. There's a one Bitcoin idea right there for you because there's only 21 million Bitcoin.
(43:41) You can't do it 21 million times. Or you could, but I don't think you're going to get This goes back to the point that website. No, the million home website where he sold like one pixel for a dollar a million pixels. You can only do that once. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. the uh and this is why I do think we're so early and I like you bring up this really good point which is like in the history of world like having these two tect tectonic shifts in terms of the money and the tech like we have this new money protocol and this we have
(44:19) this entirely new tech frontier both colliding at the same time what the heck is even like with these AI models how they're getting better and better and better every week it seems. Dude, like half of me wants to be like, "Guys, I need to take a six month break and just like freaking vibe code and just do stuff.
(44:43) " Um, but you having too much fun with the You know what excites me most these days right now? It's the thought of getting a desk with two monitors so I can do all this. Like my this is you freaks watching this right now. This is my desk. I sit here with my laptop on my lap and uh it feels very confounding in the sense that like I only have this.
(45:05) It's it's a great comfortable chair, but not conducive for uh the amount of productivity that I imagine I could have at a desk with two monitors and just being able to like go back and forth. So, uh I love Let's go down the productivity rabbit hole because I love it. I I would ar for me at least the one monitor is the most optimal. I've tried the two.
(45:27) I actually even tried three monitors. It's just it doesn't work for me because like every single which way I'm always looking where is my mouse? Where's this thing? And at the end of the day, I just need to concentrate on one screen to do one task. Now with that point, it's like this was preai. post AI, you can have like operator in one window open and it's just like or manis or whatever it is and they're running and you could kind of check in but it still also takes away from my uh focus a bit.
(46:02) Um but yeah, like that'll be a a a really cool Have you been playing with Madness? I just got the invite or the access access. Um I haven't played with it as much. Have you? I played with it a few times. It's pretty It's pretty robust. So, it competes with operator. I haven't tried operator, but I I saw Matt this whole agentic framework where you can give it a prompt and it can do pretty complex tasks.
(46:30) Like I had to make me first thing I had to do is make me a a Bitcoin dashboard based off of stats on check on chain like and like sentiment stats like where's the mayor multiple where's all this like what's the price what's the short-term holder ratio whatever it may be sorry to cut you off but there was my one son got this like Lego set for a small Lego set for uh Easter yesterday and then my other son the 2-year-old took one of the monkeys and walked outside with it in this like my father-in-law's like bigger grassy area and then I guess dropped it. My son was
(47:07) like super upset. I'm like, "What if we had a drone take a picture of the the field and then was like, "Hey, you're like an expert, you know, you got an expert lens. You're an expo. You're an expert Where's Waldo player?" Exactly. Where is the monkey here? And then you're like, "Okay, if it worked, because I didn't test it out, but if that worked, which should you' think it should, then imagine you like take a drone all the way out in the beach, right?" And be like, "Hey, do you see any gold or rings or silver or
(47:39) anything?" It's like, "Yeah, this coordinate, you know those uh on the beach where they metal detectors. It's like the better version of a metal detector." Yeah. You're going to the lite metal detectors. create a union to to prevent you from flying the uh the goldf finding drone over their operations.
(47:57) Dude, it just like the weird my weird brain is like perfect for this world. Oh man. Well, we need more that's and it is back to your point about productivity and focus. That's like one thing that is going to be important to all this because there's so many cool ideas you can go after. It's like what is one thing that you can focus on to make your business better? Like we've been using it AI here at TFTC for better part of six months just refining our process of like that's awesome models that we're using prompts that we're giving them how
(48:30) we're doing everything we need to do more and better especially at Bitcoin Park. Um we are uh I agree focus like so you have the newsletter, you have the website, you have the podcast. Um anything else I'm missing? Yes. I mean podcast is audio video. So you see that's so cool because like now you have you're producing all this unique content especially on audio and video.
(48:58) I can only imagine all the ways you're g you guys are going to be able to like cut that up and then repurpose that and that's like and all the catalog of all the history you've had from you know well that's what we do on the video like there's a tool there's an AI tool called Opus clips and we just feed it our backlog catalog of YouTube and any new episode we produce gets fed into it and it promote or presents you new clips presents clips you connect it to Reddit and Google Trends and so like if something's trending and we've talked
(49:29) about in the past like here's a few clips of something that's trending right now. Awesome. I'm making a note of that. So you can pull pull the trending clips and resurface old content that's um that's relevant to something being talked about today. It's insane like what you're going to be able to do. And then we take in the newsletter, I'm not sure if you've noticed this, but we've added a section which basically allows us to create this feedback loop of if you're reading the newsletter, you should be listening to the podcast, too. So, we'll
(49:58) take a section, multiple sections of each podcast episode, just we have a prompt that's like a description of a juicy section, like have it as a section of the newsletter with a link back to the podcast. And see that kind of iteration, constant iteration that's like a little bit lower lift but high creative thought is going to be the way.
(50:21) I mean it not even going to be it is the way. Like you're already creating all this amazing content because it gives you energy and you love to do it. Then you're like all right now all this different tooling let me just fine-tune. Especially with a great talent like Logan and others.
(50:37) It's like, hey, we can add in a tool like an Opus clips and then I that Google Trends idea is just so dang smart. And so I think I think that's going to be the way most of us think about or at least I'm thinking about on the research and education side because one of the areas we don't have enough of are like you Marty.
(51:01) I think in the Bitcoin world where we're struggling a little bit is there's still so much noise on crypto and altcoins and blockchains and stable coins and it kind of misses the Bitcoin signal about separating money from state and really about freedom money. Okay. So that's where at Bitcoin Park we're actually going to partner with Kathy and the Arc Investing team.
(51:26) and we're going to do quarterly research reports around bigger topics and dive much deeper into some of these topics. And hopefully that ties into some of the stuff that you're doing, some of the other summits that we're doing, the other meetups that we're doing, and all of this other stuff to just to get that signal across institutional investors, family offices, I know individuals, small business owners, and the like.
(51:52) Because the more signal that we can continuously produce in the ways that they consume information, the better it is. So what I would recommend to anyone out there is like you think you got an itch of somewhere something in Bitcoin, the tooling is out there just to produce it and get it out there. And I would just start now because we need more Bitcoin signal. Yeah.
(52:13) And similar to the the stat you'll hear about podcasting is similar to what you said about people testing AI tools. Start with 100, get cut to 70, 30, 10. Stick around. Like it's not intuitive. It is nation technology, but keep iterating, playing with it. You'll have like a breakthrough. Totally. Like our one prompt that produces that section of the newsletter.
(52:34) I'm pretty sure it's like 15 pages long now cuz it's like a master prompt. Whoa. Making sure like it talks in our voice and picks the right section and doesn't talk about crypto, but talks about Bitcoin and focuses on certain things. So you had to like create this master product. Is that the part of the Bitcoin brief? Yeah. Okay. I love that.
(52:50) That email is so good. Um Yeah, exactly. Like and that's the other thing I think being focused on Bitcoin, you'll win in the long term, whereas everybody was like, you know, still so broad in all of the all of the things. They're just it just you're just joining the entire crowd and entire herd. So yeah.
(53:13) and and that talk about strategic advantage and having that advantage for a certain amount of time. people are still very confused. Like we see it all the time at 1031 talking to like why should I invest in a fund that's focused only on Bitcoin and not diversified uh across broader crypto and there's still that human inclination um and of I'm not quite sure so I think I should diversify but uh people are really feel like the concentration of focus and investment around Bitcoin is is something that Some people see it as like, "Oh, that
(53:50) seems risky." But like to me, it's like the least risky thing you could be doing. Totally. I I think the more people still think their common denominator or their scoreboard is measured in dollars or fiat, it's harder to convince somebody to be like, "Hey, should focus on a sats flow, which you guys really famously coined, which I love.
(54:15) " Um, and or a Bitcoin denominated focused fund. Like for me, other than investing all everything I got in Bitcoin Park, if I had extra capital, it would be invested in a fund like 1031 for sure. Hands down. Not to show you guys, but like why dude I my hurdle rate is Bitcoin. That is the hurdle rate. So when you and I was talking with a a family friend who's like did very well in a big exit.
(54:42) He was complaining about his wealth advisor and he was like, "Yeah, I was Rod. I was asking him like why aren't we putting like a couple million into Bitcoin? I'm like oh let me answer you to qu that question Charlie doesn't get compensated on any Bitcoin related product you know and so he's like I know this [ __ ] guy.
(55:03) I'm like yeah just look at the last 15 years in terms of what that hurdle rate should be. And so the better question for guys like you or they these investors probably should be asking is like how do you outperform Bitcoin? like okay I have a million dollars I want to give to you or I want to buy Bitcoin with it how do I make that investment better than uh just investing in in the asset and that's the best question because it makes you guys better it makes the market better it makes the investor better it makes everybody better because
(55:32) they treat the going all the way back to the one of the first things we were talking about the opportunity cost of oh I just diversified across all these altcoins and shitcoins and whatever and then I had 2% % allocation in Bitcoin and that 2% saved my ass because it outperformed all this other 98% garbage.
(55:49) Yeah. You know, if it was 100% it would have outperformed Bitcoin potentially. It's uh it's again it's a fun time to to be at this intersection. I think I'm more convinced than ever this intersection of like AI and Bitcoin whether that's on the energy side agents using Bitcoin as currency or simply Bitcoin businesses, founders, teams.
(56:12) I mean, we're already seeing like Anthony and Marks are twoman team building probably one of the coolest products. Totally very niche, but um when you understand the profoundity of the privacy asurances that come with open secret, it's like, oh, every app should be using this and they're totally building it out at a insane pace with with two people.
(56:33) And that is an example of these are investors in them. Yes. Sick. AI accelerating founders to build and from an opportunity cost like how do you outperform Bitcoin? Like that's what we look for like how can you do more with less because the less people you have to hire the less money you're spending on headcount as opposed to putting in the Bitcoin and building a product at at the same if not an increased pace that's going to get to market, get to revenue faster, get to profitability faster and allow you to stack more Bitcoin in your
(57:02) treasury. And the idea is that the founders can do that efficient, do it fast, totally do it profitably like and get and you guys help with that mindset. I mean most founders I want to say you are Bitcoiners that you're probably investing in. But even if they're like amazing founders and they are indirectly involved in Bitcoin, at least you guys are bringing that expertise on the treasury management side, on the discipline side.
(57:30) Um whereas a lot of these other folks are like looking at the capital and just we got to get our treasury management is like deploying it in maybe human capital or like other areas where it's those people like we I had Will Reeves on. We just did this last actually should be published on Thursday the Bitcoin brainstorm.
(57:50) We had Matt Cole from Strive Will and Odell on and uh Will is such a good operator. He's got like a good head discipline around increasing his Bitcoin balance sheet uh as it relates to Fold, a publicly traded company while building a great profitable business and that and you guys invested in Folds, right? And okay and uh that just is like those are the next wave of founders that um very we're we're both very fortunate to be in our circles of just being able to learn from.
(58:26) Yeah, I feel like you're in that circle too. you're doing here at Bitcoin Park like the events with everything going on like you're lever you're again applying this AI thing for a Bitcoin company the way you're leveraging on the back end to create efficiencies on the operations side uh to basically make sure that you can do more with your time to make the business even better like it's happen like when you talk about the intersection of Bitcoin and crypto or excuse me Bitcoin and crypto bitcoin and AI I think it's freefold the energy AI agents will use Bitcoin but
(58:57) using AI to build Bitcoin businesses as quickly and efficiently as possible. Yeah. And I think those that can you mention your 15page prompt doc, the human in the loop aspect and sticking to principles is going to be massive because like we're going to have this shiny object syndrome that's going to be, you know, just out there.
(59:21) There's going to just be something new. And the I love the the kids and the wife are such a great forcing function because 8 hours of sleep, you know, the kids time in the morning plus the kids time uh practice, nap, or sorry, uh bedtime, bath time, dinner time, reading time, play time. And so, okay, remove all that.
(59:44) Then you got probably like six to eight hours of good productive work in the middle of that. How do you maximize that time? But then how do you like ex elongate that time while you're sleeping or while you're playing? So like those a aentic agents, other teams of humans potentially working in different time zones for you on the specific missions that you're looking to do.
(1:00:07) Like knock on wood, we're going to host uh the this inaugural Texas Energy and Mining Summit. And I'm super thankful that you're participating in it. We got some of the best Bitcoin mining operators and service providers in the world that are going to be here and continuing to build off of that kind of momentum will compound for Bitcoin Park, Bitcoin Park members, Bitcoin Park, they're just Bitcoin community in general.
(1:00:31) And then I think you're going to see like guys like Tony or Anthony and Markx bringing in their AI expertise and then other folks from the energy side coming in. And then you're gonna there's a world where the word Bitcoin especially as it relates to Bitcoin park just goes away and it's just gonna be called the park like Park Nashville Park Austin and it's going to just be this this convergence or collision location of all the intersection of all these amazing like AI Bitcoin and energy are the best of the best entrepreneurs developers
(1:01:04) engineers in the world to come work learn collaborate and build. Yeah. Idea for one of the events here at Park Austin. We've got cultural concentration down here, too. We have the mothership down the street. We should get a comedian to come. Dude, I'm I'm game for that to talk to one of like not only do we have the intersection of Bitcoin, AI, energy, but we also got culture down here.
(1:01:28) So, uh, Open Mike from Tunster is going to do a value for value, uh, uh, music event here as well as in Nashville. Uh, I think it's Nick or Mitch uh that goes to the There's like an open mic night over there at the comedy. What's the guy that does the um killony kill Tony? Yeah. And it's like open mic, right? Yeah. You get Yeah.
(1:01:53) Or it's a lottery, you know? It's a lottery open mic. It's like Yeah. So, one of my weird goals is just to do an open mic in general. I mean, I would get booed like none other because I'm not that funny, but like I just want to do it and just knock it off the bucket list. I feel like we should do like You don't have to start with Kill Tony.
(1:02:12) That's That's an intense one. No, no, no. Definitely not. My See, I don't know how you guys do it, especially online. I'm like so fragile uh that like one bad comment, I'm like, "Okay, I'm done here." You know, like I'm doing an open mic and someone made fun of me, I'd be like, "Okay, guys, you're right. I'm I'm done here.
(1:02:29) " Um, but it would be fun to like test because like it helps with your public speaking and it helps. Yeah, it it would be fun. And then maybe we get a couple good because you've had a bunch of comedians right on your pod. Yeah. Yeah. There may be another big one coming on soon. Oh, cool.
(1:02:45) This is not to be uh Jay and then R. No. Oh, maybe Joe, if you're listening. Somebody in that. He's definitely listening. Somebody in that sphere though. Uh I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, but there's been uh there's been some contact from another park member to a big comedian to come on the show. So that's all.
(1:03:02) See, this is where again I think Bitcoin is this just gravitational force where those folks are interested and they want to get to a guy like you and it's just natural that they're like, "Okay, yeah, let's sit down." And then vice versa, it's like, "Oh, let me bring my uh what did Portoy call you? Like my Bitcoin Marty.
(1:03:20) Bitcoin Marty. Yeah. and you're like just the Bitcoin Marty guy, right? And you come on and you're their guy and then uh all of a sudden you're just then their friend and then they're just like, "Wait, yeah, we're all just friends and Bitcoin's just like the money we use. That's just money." Yeah. And we just roll. Money Marty.
(1:03:38) Money Marty. Money Marty. Maybe maybe one day, Logan. Money Marty. Rod. Dude, where can people find out more about Texas Energy Mining Summit? Uh is there any is there any tickets left? So no ticket. Well, just join the wait list on the meetup page. So, bitcoinpark.com/ Austin. We have, I think, now 2500 or 2,600 people on that weight uh that meetup page.
(1:03:59) Uh go scroll to the event uh the Texas Energy and Mining Summit. Join that weight list. I'm going through. We're all going through uh and then pulling people off the wait list. I think there's going to be a few tickets still remaining for this next couple weeks. Uh really again honored that you're going to be participating again.
(1:04:16) And I think this is like your fourth energy and mining summit in general. Yeah, I've been I've been to all three in Nashville so far. So, and I I don't want to boost Parker or Will's egos, Will Cole's ego and Parker Lewis, but I do think with the enthusiasm and what you guys are building in Texas that I'm going to take a lot of pride and responsibility, not only in this first one, but I I think I want to make this really special for decades to come and make this the place where if you're in this world, you'll want come once a week or one time a year to Austin, Texas
(1:04:57) to participate in this. So, this will be our first one. We're going to learn a lot. We're going to have a probably 150 investors, policy makers, energy producers, mining operators, and service providers here. And uh we'll we'll see how it goes. I can't wait. May 6th and 7th here in Austin, Texas. Going to be a big week.
(1:05:16) We have Bitcoin plus. Yeah. At the tail end. Yep. Of the week will be awesome. And then the Teleahash on Monday. By the way, you know that Teahash we I've been I've been manifesting a block with this. So, I'll point some hash at the Teleahash. We're going to mine another block. Can you believe we mind a freaking block live? I can.
(1:05:33) You could manifest. We talked about this quantum. Uh Logan's theoretical physicist family member is not a fan of it. I don't believe. But, uh you can manifest mind blocks. We're going to do it with this. I I agree. So, should we have all like the 100 200 people that are at the Teleahash just stare? Yeah.
(1:05:50) I've already get into the room and stare at the chip. Okay. To produce a hash below the difficulty target. It's going to happen. That'd be awesome. Tune in to the Teleahash. Thank you, man. You're you're the man. Thank you. You're the man. We I love these conversations and I learn a lot, too.
(1:06:07) Productivity tools we should be using, how to be a better father. It's uh I learn a lot from you and it's it's it's the best. And I'll I'll maybe say one more thing. It's like people are like, "Oh, I need to hit this level of being an entrepreneur before I have kids or I can't be an entrepreneur because I have kids.
(1:06:25) " I I hope we can dispel that rumor or dispel that myth because I think you can have it all. It's just you need to figure out what's most important and I think we both do a really good job of saying no to a lot of things even though they may seem like very attractive at the time, but for this short period of time, again, what's scarcer than Bitcoin is our time.
(1:06:45) What's scarcer than our time is our time with our kids. So it's like how do you in this window even though it's like man I really should go to that dinner party or I should go to that event or I should go to this. It's like hey you know what I'm just going to say let's let's spend the time here. Yeah.
(1:07:00) I'm going to go do tubby time. Let's go. Tubby time is a great time. Peace of love freaks freaks. Thank you for listening to the show. I hoped you liked it. If you did like it, please make sure you subscribe, rate, review the show. It helps us out a lot. And also, if you like these conversations, I've come to realize that many people listen to the podcast.
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